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[Suggestion] flight-like access to new APIs

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Dear developers at 343 Industries, I would like to share a suggestion or request for the upcoming titles that will be released, like Halo Infinite.

Please, consider creating a flight / beta for brand-new APIs that are being built for upcoming games. Independent developers from this sub-forum that are known to have created or published an application, could get invited to help test and provide feedback during the last stages of the APIs/backend design or deployment. Think about it as similar to the Master Chief Collection flights, but at a much smaller scale. A ring of external developers who would also provide quality and scalability feedback.

Benefits: In addition to receiving valuable feedback from developers, games like Halo: Infinite could have a variety of fan-made (third-party) applications available on launch day, thus increasing the impact and reach, creating a richer launch experience. For instance, mobile applications, discord bots, etc.

Would like to hear your thoughts about this, either if the idea is viable or not.
Thank you
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radiactivepeter wrote:
Dear developers at 343 Industries, I would like to share a suggestion or idea for the upcoming titles that will be released, like Halo Infinite.

Please, consider creating a flight / beta for brand-new APIs that are being built for new games. Independent developers from this sub-forum that are known to have created or published an application, could get invited to help test and provide feedback during the last stages of the APIs/backend design or deployment. Think about it as similar to the Master Chief Collection flights, but at a much smaller scale. A ring of external developers who would also provide quality and scalability feedback.

Benefits: In addition to receiving valuable feedback from developers, games like Halo: Infinite could have a variety of fan-made (third-party) applications available on launch day, thus increasing the impact and reach, creating a richer launch experience. For instance, mobile applications, discord bots, etc. Would like to hear your thoughts about this, either if the idea is viable or not.
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I would love to see any feedback about the upcoming title(s) regarding api support. However a API would likely be released sometime after the title is public. But a guy can still be hopeful!
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I would loveeeee if this became a reality! Please 343.

Me May Hamn, and Halo Data Hive have all been utilizing the full potential of the Halo 5 API.
Personally I have a lot of projects that would benefit a lot with Halo Infinite support this involves discord bots, twitter bots, twitch bots, twitch obs overlays integrated with Halo stats, a Halo Esports Platform (HaloEsportsGG), Halo South Africa, just to name a few. Please can this be a thing. I don't mind making revisions if the endpoints etc change on full launch but having more or less an idea of what I'll be working with will give me the ability to update all my platforms and have them ready before launch. Similar to how the Reclaimers get access to flights etc early it would be nice if the API Developers had something similar.
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NicmeistaR wrote:
I would loveeeee if this became a reality! Please 343.

Me May Hamn, and Halo Data Hive have all been utilizing the full potential of the Halo 5 API.
Personally I have a lot of projects that would benefit a lot with Halo Infinite support this involves discord bots, twitter bots, twitch bots, twitch obs overlays integrated with Halo stats, a Halo Esports Platform (HaloEsportsGG), Halo South Africa, just to name a few. Please can this be a thing. I don't mind making revisions if the endpoints etc change on full launch but having more or less an idea of what I'll be working with will give me the ability to update all my platforms and have them ready before launch. Similar to how the Reclaimers get access to flights etc early it would be nice if the API Developers had something similar.
Thanks NicmeistaR and May Hamn for your comments on this.

To elaborate a bit more on the original idea; We know the teams are working hard to ship the game so it's okay that this can't be a top priority.

Nevertheless, there are two scenarios where this should be beneficial for both sides, either if a multiplayer open beta happens, or just a few weeks before release date. Testing everything and receiving feedback and data usage at those moments can be helpful, and as NicmeistaR said, no developer is going to mind making revisions in our side if things change later.

This could be properly accompanied by NDAs. I'm sure we committed developers won't have any issue with that.
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Yeah this would be so good. I want to play Infinite on release and not spend all my time updating Halo Data Hive. Getting a head start would save so much stress.
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I'd love to be able to experiment creating data driven apps with the APIs from Halo Infinite. 100% in support of this idea!
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Brilliant idea. People want the extras; they want twitch and discord integration. They want unofficial leaderboards and mobile applications. We all understand that a public API might be lower priority especially given the delay. However you have to consider the return on investing time into a well documented, tested, public api at launch. This is a major way you build a strong long lasting community. We are here, we want to help the game succeed, don't de-prioritize us to far down the list.... please.
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Agreed, it would be great to have some foundational project code written up prior to the official release. I understand that the release of an open API could potentially come out after the game has launched though, so maybe that's why it hasn't been mentioned (I'm hoping that's not the case). As already mentioned, it allows more user interaction and early integration to make Halo Infinite seem immersed in every social gaming tool (Twitch, Discord, etc...). Perhaps an NDA would be required for those whom want to get access if the concern is over information leaks about Halo Infinite (seeing as everything is tightly under wraps).
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I agree. It's in good faith that being able to have something tangible to work with so when the game launches, it can make the community feel even more immersed. Especially for a project I have in mind for Halo: Infinite. And fingers crossed we get even more endpoints to play with to create even better applications. Thanks 343.
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This would be a great idea, even with limited endpoints just as a beta this would help a lot to get things ready once it's launched.

I didn't know of the Halo API until recently, how long did it take for the Halo 5 API to be released after the game launched?
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qC00LBEANZp wrote:
This would be a great idea, even with limited endpoints just as a beta this would help a lot to get things ready once it's launched.

I didn't know of the Halo API until recently, how long did it take for the Halo 5 API to be released after the game launched?
about a year
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Bump 😁
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I would be interested in this especially given the flights going out now, I think it might be a bit much to have the teams at 343 manage this as well as all the flights, but it would be great to test out the API on the 'flighted' games after
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