I just wish they would've said that DW doesn't fit the design. And they should have elites--and all forms of playable enemy types for custom games and machinima.
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I thought they pretty much have over the years. My memory may have been fading but they have touched upon the problems with game balance / sandbox previously.WolfV11 wrote:I would just have so much more respect for them if they'd just say "dual-wielding doesn't fit how we're designing this game. It hasn't been in Halo in many years and was phased out before 343 took over the franchise."
Just out of interest, how many other first person shooters let you run around as the (alien/monster) enemy?WolfV11 wrote:As for no Elites?
Ridiculous. Keep it out of competitive if you want to make everything more uniform, but you should be able to play as every Covenant species in custom games if you want. Hell, you should be able to play as Flood and Prometheans in custom games if you want.
Exactly. 343 would have huge amounts of data from the old games and MCC. They would know exactly what proportion of the population plays what type of games, how much, and how exclusively.
Bungie was done with Halo, 343 didn't take it from them. Bungie sold Halo and the rights to all of its content to Microsoft and Bungie's contract with Microsoft stipulated that while employed by Microsoft that they could only work on Halo games and Bungie wanted to create something else after Halo 3. Bungie abandoned Halo to create Destiny. When Bungie made Halo Reach they made a prequel because they had no intention of continuing Master Chief's story even though fans and Microsoft wanted more. If Bungie had kept making Halo games I doubt they would be anything like the original 3 at all, even more different than 343 made them. Also some of the original group from Bungie who were wanting to continue with the Halo franchise made it over to 343, but that was only a very small number of people who wanted to continue with Halo.StarWarsRulez79 wrote:(loud banging) ONI OPEN UP!
So I guess by this logic it was okay for them to remove Oddball from Halo 5 because there was no data saying that the majority of fans wanted Oddball in Halo 5?Darwi wrote:Exactly. 343 would have huge amounts of data from the old games and MCC. They would know exactly what proportion of the population plays what type of games, how much, and how exclusively.
I am a fan of oddball, but I've never once been up in arms when the mode wasn't included at launch because I understand that it likely isn't high on the list of most played game types. Is there a defined list somewhere that I've not seen of what items make the cut for a staple feature? Maybe I'll browse Halopedia.Phaaze wrote:So I guess by this logic it was okay for them to remove Oddball from Halo 5 because there was no data saying that the majority of fans wanted Oddball in Halo 5?Darwi wrote:Exactly. 343 would have huge amounts of data from the old games and MCC. They would know exactly what proportion of the population plays what type of games, how much, and how exclusively.
We're really having a debate of the semantics that determine why staple features are missing from Halo and people are trying to justify it. That's just absurd.
The "majority" of fans don't want sprint in, as "data" as shown on numerous occasions and yet it's been in and will continue to be in Halo. What do we do with that, then?
I understand your feeling fully. 343i said that this was going to be a spiritual reboot, but yet missing features, and options are being confirmed with each community update.
Lets be honest.
Aspects of that mentality were a bit present in the development of H5 in my opinion but its a bit cynical to project it onto all of 343 in my opinion. Updates to the MCC in recent years have been great and advertisements for infinite look like they are listening to their fanbase (although I said the same thing about the ads for H5...)Zelliam wrote:Lets be honest.
343i run on a single line.
"It's halo, they'll buy it"