Halo 6 Wishlist

J HOVA 8 wrote:

Escarietson wrote:

J HOVA 8 wrote:

Classic Halo for MLG mode; other modes are fine with or without advanced movement for me

Hmm... You know I wonder if something like THAT would properly balance both the purists and quality-of-life-care-er's that the entire Halo community is constantly bickering between about...

A Classic-Halo-gameplay-mode types that does NOT have all the modern elements of today, along with Modern-Halo-gameplay-mode types that has all the modern elements, and in the Multiplayer lobbies there two major categories that allow players to either let them play with the Classic elements or the Modern elements or both without changing the preferred game types and player count completely.

Looking at MCC's social multiplayer customizer, it has tons of options of the player count, game mode type, and Halo game of the collection. So upon infinite, it could have another part to that this on top of the player amount preference and game type kinds, like the top tier could have Classic Halo or Modern Halo options you could select either one of them or both of them and then all the other options as they are...

Classic Halo type will have the best parts of Halo's CE to 3 with the general behaviors of all the classic halos like no death cams, no sprinting or armor abilities and such.
Modern Halo type will have the best parts of Halo's Reach to 5 with the general behaviors of all the recent halos like death cams, limited sprinting by default, armor abilities, clambering, SmartScoping, custom loadouts and such.
Game types general rules won't change, CTF is still CTF and such...I would like to see 343 experiment with this idea... Though I don't think this should happen with the campaign, might cause inconsistency somewhere...

Yea that sounds like a good idea Escarietson. I think they could try this out with a beta and see how fans react. Hardcore players would jump right into classic, and players who like modern mechanics could go straight to that. The only problem I foresee is designing maps, I guess you would have to design extra maps specifically for the MLG playlist to accommodate for slower movement, though I think they could increase base movement speed to compensate maybe. The beta would be a good way to see fans' reactions.

i think using mythic arena like movement as a base is a good fusion of modern and classic gameplay that takes the best from both, so no deliberate splitting of the comunity is needed.

Escarietson wrote:

Fractal Echo wrote:

J HOVA 8 wrote:

Escarietson wrote:

J HOVA 8 wrote:

Classic Halo for MLG mode; other modes are fine with or without advanced movement for me

Hmm... You know I wonder if something like THAT would properly balance both the purists and quality-of-life-care-er's that the entire Halo community is constantly bickering between about...

A Classic-Halo-gameplay-mode types that does NOT have all the modern elements of today, along with Modern-Halo-gameplay-mode types that has all the modern elements, and in the Multiplayer lobbies there two major categories that allow players to either let them play with the Classic elements or the Modern elements or both without changing the preferred game types and player count completely.

Looking at MCC's social multiplayer customizer, it has tons of options of the player count, game mode type, and Halo game of the collection. So upon infinite, it could have another part to that this on top of the player amount preference and game type kinds, like the top tier could have Classic Halo or Modern Halo options you could select either one of them or both of them and then all the other options as they are...

Classic Halo type will have the best parts of Halo's CE to 3 with the general behaviors of all the classic halos like no death cams, no sprinting or armor abilities and such.
Modern Halo type will have the best parts of Halo's Reach to 5 with the general behaviors of all the recent halos like death cams, limited sprinting by default, armor abilities, clambering, SmartScoping, custom loadouts and such.
Game types general rules won't change, CTF is still CTF and such...I would like to see 343 experiment with this idea... Though I don't think this should happen with the campaign, might cause inconsistency somewhere...

It was one of many suggestions that may sound like a "Respect Existence or Expect Resistance" kind of thing, but since the Halo 5 Beta had many modern elements that were neutered in the final game due to resistance by the Classic players despite the praise from the Modern players which is still argued about today...

Now don't get me wrong; a classic should never die, but also some things are not meant to last forever... So why not allow both of the extremes in a way that perfectly satisfies both parties without awkwardly hybridizing things? Like what I said about a custom social multiplayer option kinda like MCC has right now, with Modern Halo and Classic Halo options that changes gameplay mechanics like movement, weapons, respawning, shield & health, etc. while the general shticks of Slayer, CTF, etc. remains (mostly) unchanged. Maps same thing, although there might need to be different versions of those that works well with Modern and Classic in their own respective ways...

As for the Competitive part, that might a little more linear (or something) with playlists that say "Classic Team Slayer" and "Modern Team Slayer", or simply "[C] Team Slayer" and "[M] Team Slayer", be creative!

Regardless, I see this as an interesting idea that could possibly be beta tested (maybe with the Insiders and flight testers). If done well, then the community might start getting along a little better. MCC's social options are a bit of an inspiration, so why not utilize that with options for the Classic Go-er's and Modern Go-er's too for Infinite and the fan named sequel, Beyond?

a slip personality of the game could severly harm map design and campaign design, as you couldn't optimize for both at once. aming for a clearly defined hybrid gameplay ( like mythic arena) and intruducing custom game settings for classic and modern gameplay ( the sprint- code could be left in engine and activateable for custom games) would allow for great variety.

groundpound and spartan charge would be gone though. these are generaly more disliked than liked i think.

While were on the topic of "balancing ideas" like what I said about the Classic/Modern Halo options for Halo Infinite (and beyond, and so on and so forth), how about we see more HUMAN enemies, like Insurrectionists or maybe even rogue UNSC marines, ODST's, or even Spartans in the Campaign and Multiplayer modes (or heck in skirmish modes with AI players)?

Halo 5 did in fact provide enemy marines to fight, but they were severely restricted in Warzone as base-defense-only's and were too easy to kill if not rather useless. The only marines we got in the campaign were the Indies of Meridian and weren't that much overall.

Imagine if we get playable/customizable Elites back (hopefully for good) and have various PVP and PVE Spartan VS Elite modes like Invasion or PVP/PVE firefight modes that had AI allies on the offense and defense as an Elite and vise versa. Or maybe as a simulated Insurrection war scenario with various Insurrectionist marines, ODSTs, or even Spartans. A more authentic "War-games" as was stated in Halo 4, but not only with the ability to fight other players and AI's as enemy spartans and allies but also with Elites in the same way, as allies or enemies that allow mixed teams of Spartans and elites (like Halo 2 and 3) and also Spartan vs Elite modes (like Reach).

And why not? Not only in the lore there were Insurrection Wars before and after the Human Covenant War, but also the hard fact of the matter; Humans are incapable of universal unification (same logic applies to the Elites too, Arbiter's Swords of Sanghelios and the Jul 'Mdama's Covenant among others like the Banished).

We can't fight aliens all the time, Spartans have to fight humans too, for they were originally intended to crush human rebellion...

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1: I would love to go back to the Reach style credit system. It felt more satisfying being able to buy the things you want when you want it after achieving a certain rank rather than just random packs that can be paid for. The REQ system didn't make any of my armor or weapon skins feel like any worth knowing that some random low rank person got some legendary armor by chance rather than earning it and Reach felt more personalized even with less armor options you were able to feel accomplished when you finally get that one piece of armor that took you weeks to unlock rather than spending the same amount of time playing and getting random armor you don't care about or spending an excessive amount of money to try getting the one set you actually want.

2: I really don't care for the weapon skins in Halo 5. I would rather just have a few weapon skins that made sense like camos and solid colors like white, black, or green. That may just be me I know people who really like the fun weapon skins but it feels distracting from the game itself and ruins some of the fun for me. Another idea would be to have a very personalized option where you can truly customize your weapon by letting you add colors and decals on certain places instead of it being like a wrap that feels unfinished.

3: Halo 5s multiple armor sets with different decals is a super cool idea and I would love for them to bring it back. The one problem I had with the way Halo 5 did it was that they made it a completely different armor and started jamming my armor inventory with the same looking helmets making it feel overwhelming. I would instead do what you had in Halo Reach where you have a sublist of that particular armor set and gave you all the accessories and decals there making the armor list feel more organized.

4: Bring back some older enemies like the Brutes, Drones, and Flood. They were an awesome enemy to fight and removing them suddenly didn't feel right. I would love to see the Flood return and with the Awakening the Nightmare DLC from Halo Wars 2 I think that is totally possible and with the banished that also gives us some Brutes. I personally don't like fighting the prometheans or forerunners but I do think with the story so far I think it's unavoidable.

5: I really couldn't care less about the different REQ weapons and perks and I would just have them removed completely.

6: Warzone was an awesome idea but I don't think it felt finished. I would want it to feel like a massive war rather than whatever it was trying to do. Have Frigates and Corvettes flying in the air dropping Pelicans and Phantoms with troops and have Sparrows and Banshees flying around in aerial combat with a large firefight style war in a large map. Have one team be UNSC and the other Covenant. There we would have playable Elites I would think. Made game entrances unique every time you play. Have times where the mission is to evacuate the city with civilians in the crossfire. Have Flood modes with massive Flood outbreaks like an infection mode. Have territories and standard troop limit or kill score.

7: Black undersuit.

8: Remove some of the spartan abilities like the spartan charge and ground pound. I'm okay with sprint but I don't need all of those.

9: Have the environment react with the armor. Have your boots get all muddy if your walking through a swamp. If you get shot with your shield down have cracks and dents or maybe even have the cracked visor if you get shot in the head like Halo Reach on the final mission. I know that's unnecessary but I think it would look amazing with the armor and in custom games or matchmaking it would make the game feel great.

I would just like to state that I absolutely don't want to fight human NPCs in Halo games, not as Spartans/Marines, not as Covenant/enemies etc..
In some of my previous posts I talk about a mode I'd like to see where you play as Covenant. Let me make sure people understand that it isn't to fight human NPCs, but to fight other Covenant forces, Promethean forces, or new alien/robotic enemies. Really not interested in killing human NPCs whether 'insurrectionists' or not.