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The Flood will not be in Halo Infinite

OP JLtheStoneWall

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At this point in time, the major known setting for Halo Infinite's campaign is Zeta Halo. For those who may be unfamiliar with the novels and the lore they contain, Zeta Halo featured heavily in the book Halo: Primordium, which was the second book in the Forerunner trilogy of novels.

A descendant or remnant of the Precursors known as the "Primordial" resided on Zeta Halo for a time. This creature was part of the Flood consciousness, and it was responsible for infecting Mendicant Bias with something called the "logic plague." There were other Flood exploits on Zeta Halo, and this information has inspired endless speculation on whether or not the Flood will return in Halo Infinite as an enemy faction.

The short answer is no.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/Halo-Infinite/9PP5G1F0C2B6

Halo Infinite is rated T for Violence. If the Flood feature in the game at all, it's highly unlikely that they will be an entity that the player can fight. Unless the ESRB has changed its standards for what constitutes gore, I personally don't believe the Flood will be in the game. And that's okay.

While it's worth noting that Halo Wars 2 has the Flood and retains its T rating, I wouldn't advise holding out for their presence in Halo Infinite. That would probably be setting yourself up to be disappointed.

I think the Flood have served their purpose within the narrative, and bringing them back would be pointless and an unnecessary headache for the narrative team.
It's possible we could see the Flood with a Teen rating so long as we don't witness any transformations.

Halo 4 had Infected Spartans in multiplayer. It's Mature rating was depicted as Blood/Violence. Because we didn't see any transformations, no gore involved.

Or they do the Flood in DLC which is how Halo Wars 2 bypassed the rating, I believe. Unless the DLC had it's own rating.
The Flood will be back.

Not necessarily at launch.

But over the 10 year life span of the game it's hard to see them not being a regular part of the narrative.
Mmm, what MysticKami and Darwi said. It's possible that Flood might just come in further DLC like halo wars 2 with its own rating. Halo wars 2 did include the flood to an extent with the T-rating in the cut scenes but one's an RTS and another is a FPS.
We may not be able to fight the flood at launch like you said, but the likelihood of them being mention/hinted is possible in my opinion.
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Halo Infinite is rated T for Violence.
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That is not correct; Halo Infinite has not been rated yet by any classification authority. The rating on that web page is a placeholder. The Xbox page for Infinite has the content rating listed as "Rating Pending."
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/halo-infinite
I have a feeling they will integrate the flood through a firefight or another add on later on.

No real tell tale weather or not it will be in game.
John9895 wrote:
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Halo Infinite is rated T for Violence.
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That is not correct; Halo Infinite has not been rated yet by any classification authority. The rating on that web page is a placeholder. The Xbox page for Infinite has the content rating listed as "Rating Pending."
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/halo-infinite
I really hope that's true. If not it is the next bad choice of 343i. Maybe this time Fortnite is the idol.
"Halo Infinite is rated T for Violence"
That was likely a bug, unless there was some kind of beta we didn't hear about. Like others have said, as long as there are no transformations, maybe Infinite can have the flood with a T rating, like HW2. On top of that, some kinds of mild gore is allowed by ESRB, as long as it isn't TOO graphic.
John9895 wrote:
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Halo Infinite is rated T for Violence.
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That is not correct; Halo Infinite has not been rated yet by any classification authority. The rating on that web page is a placeholder. The Xbox page for Infinite has the content rating listed as "Rating Pending."
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/halo-infinite
Both the Store app on Xbox One and the listing on Xbox.com show the game as being rated T for violence, and we know the game's rating would have been released by now were it not for the delay.

I think the visibility of the rating might be an oversight, but T for violence matches up with what we've seen of the game so far. I'm fairly confident this will be the launch rating.

I'm not sure how a DLC would change the rating, either. It didn't for Halo Wars 2, and changing the rating of a game at some point during its lifespan seems problematic.

Remember, a T rating means that younger e-Sports players can participate in official tournaments, which is important.
John9895 wrote:
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Halo Infinite is rated T for Violence.
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That is not correct; Halo Infinite has not been rated yet by any classification authority. The rating on that web page is a placeholder. The Xbox page for Infinite has the content rating listed as "Rating Pending."
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/halo-infinite
Both the Store app on Xbox One and the listing on Xbox.com show the game as being rated T for violence, and we know the game's rating would have been released by now were it not for the delay.

I think the visibility of the rating might be an oversight, but T for violence matches up with what we've seen of the game so far. I'm fairly confident this will be the launch rating.

I'm not sure how a DLC would change the rating, either. It didn't for Halo Wars 2, and changing the rating of a game at some point during its lifespan seems problematic.

Remember, a T rating means that younger e-Sports players can participate in official tournaments, which is important.
The T rating was a glitch. If you check their OFFICIAL WEBSITE, it says that Infinite is not even on their site (https://www.esrb.org/search/?searchKeyword=Halo%20Infinite&platform=All%20Platforms&rating=E%2CE10%2B%2CT%2CM%2CAO&descriptor=All%20Content&pg=1&searchType=All). By the way, i think you need to be 18 or older to be in esports. And also, what difference does it make if your game has a different letter on the cover?
The T rating for Infinite is not official. It is most likely a placeholder. This website's rating for Infinite is RP. When 343 were using a pug for audio recordings, it sounded a lot like Flood noises. If they aren't in Infinite due to a rating, then people will be extremely mad due to the fact that the Halo ring is Zeta Halo, which is the most Flood-connected ring.
This is a bit of a gray area of discussion. The flood were responsible for the Gore rating but Combat Evolved was actually almost rated T (if not for the language). I'm sure if they decided to integrate the flood, they can tone back the graphic content in a similar fashion like they did in Halo 4 and Halo Wars 2 which both featured the flood while maintaining a T Rating.
I don't want to hold a candle out for anyone regarding it but isn't it the case every time except regarding Halo 4 when a ring been found some sort of infestation/outbreak has occured?

Judging by the state of the ring I wouldn't put it past a outbreak happening on the ring but i also agree op I doubt Flood will have a main focus in the game just like Halo 4. We know the bad guy/mastermind of the faction and goals are clear on what going to be happening we just don't know how Master chief and Pals will react.

for the moment it begs the question that the Ring was heavily damaged and not a single flood spore got loose or anything.........(i wanna say its highly unlikely)
John9895 wrote:
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Halo Infinite is rated T for Violence.
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The T rating was a glitch. If you check their OFFICIAL WEBSITE, it says that Infinite is not even on their site (https://www.esrb.org/search/?searchKeyword=Halo%20Infinite&platform=All%20Platforms&rating=E%2CE10%2B%2CT%2CM%2CAO&descriptor=All%20Content&pg=1&searchType=All). By the way, i think you need to be 18 or older to be in esports. And also, what difference does it make if your game has a different letter on the cover?
The ESRB website lacking an entry for Halo Infinite may be due to spoilers necessarily being contained in the description.

The T rating is most certainly not a glitch. How could something so deliberate be a glitch? If you go to Halo Infinite's page in the Store on an Xbox One, the gameplay trailer now has a T for Violence warning attached to the beginning, which is not present in the original YouTube trailer. Someone intentionally added it.

e-Sports leagues set their own age restriction; there is no static age requirement for all leagues. However, if a game has a Mature rating, then everyone under 17 is precluded from participating in official tournaments as far as Halo is concerned. This was the case for Halo 4, I know for certain.
I wouldn’t say that bringing the Flood back is pointless, but if they want to create a new interesting story than the use of the Prometheans and Palmer seem like an odd choice.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they will pull off a HW2: no Flood at launch, but the first major DLC will be about them. And yes, DLCs are rated as well. So Hi might start out as a "PEGI 12" or "T for Teen" title, but it will get back up to 16 fairly quick.

I'm just disappointed a bit about blood not staining the world. That was one of my favorite effects as a kid. No kidding! I spent hours punching dead aliens in HCE just to see how many gallons the engine can handle! X'D <- That and the needler Crystals turning greenish blue in the shade, it's really noticeable in the mission "Assault on Control Room". Am I the only that lost time looking at the weird shaders of the OG crystals on the needler? Yes? Okay than.
The threshold for what constitutes an M rating is much higher today than what it was in 2001. People are a lot more desensitized to violence and gore today. I believe the Flood can function as they did in the original trilogy and the game could still get a T rating. I really don’t care what rating it gets either way.
The Flood can't be in Infinite unless you're wanting to keep throwing token nostalgia bait that doesn't add anything meaningful to the story. What else are you going to do with them differently? You can't. They're THAT one dimensional and are canonically immortal to the point where you need to drop everything and blow up the nearest starship or activate the nearest ring to wipe them out if you don't have trillions of Sentinels nearby.

Awakening the Nightmare and the Xbox version of Spartan Strike was the ultimate example of their pointlessness in any future games, Both were done just to say "HEY DO YOU REMEMBER THE FLOOD? HERE YOU GO!"
I have seen probably 5 forums now that say halo infinite will not have the flood, but not a single on has given and solid proof. THE GORE FROM COMBAT FORMS IS NO WORSE THAN STOMPING A ROACH! Halo wars had arguably the worst part of the flood: cutscenes. The cutscenes showed the true horror and violence of the flood. The same goes for the cutscenes in halo 2A. In gameplay it is not nearly as gruesome. It is no worse than any PG-13 sci-fi movie I have ever seen. As for violence, you can literally stab another human in the face with a knife and then knee it further into their face in Halo 5 (a T-rated game). Halo infinite can be rated teen and still contain the flood.

(Apologies if this sounds too aggressive, but again, I think too many people believe that halo infinite won't have the flood purely based on the fact that the game is rated teen. So far, I have seen no other arguments.)
We all know what happens when we set foot on another ring.
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