I think you are severely underestimating the amount of classic Halo gameplay fans. Most of them are not simply nostalgia mongers, they just like the way Halo played in the past and don't like how it plays now.MC Latin Lover wrote:Campaign wise there isn't much difference in the Halo core. As for the Arena shooter core in MP, it has changed, when it did the most on H4 it wasn't well taken and a failure, yet it came back in H5 and it keeps core gameplay with new mechanics, which is what Doom does. I have rarely seen complains on Halo's campaign gameplay, the story is a different thing. In the end, let's see how much population Doom Eternal has in 4 years and how it compares to today's H5.. I don't think Doom's MP is even a deal.Delta5931 wrote:DOOM maintains the core of what made DOOM 1 and 2 good though. Just get in there, shoot all the stuff, and leave. Halo 5 is nearly unrecognizable when put next to Halo 3 or Halo 2. I don't think anyone is wallowing in nostalgia. Halo 2 and Halo 3 kept their player-base very well. Also, Halo 5 is probably a success because it was the only new Halo game released on the Xbox One and was the only one that actually worked on launch.MC Latin Lover wrote:Yet DOOM is so different from the original game, they did it right, Halo also did it right, the thing is this bunch of people wallowing in nostalgia cause Halo 2 and Halo 3 were the most successful games at the moment. H5 was a success, it has maintained player population for many years. These complainers comparing it to H2-3 levels just don't understand how much of a different era it is.Vinman720 wrote:You people are so confusing to me. How can you say you liked Halo? Please go put some actual time into Halo 2 and Halo 3 and you will realize not EVERY MODERN SHOOTER NEEDS TO HAVE SPRINT. Why is that hard to understand. COD does it and suddenly its a norm? There are other ways to innovate gameplay. Look at DOOM. It is such a unique FPS gameplay and Halo used to have that. This is frightening.flatmotion1 wrote:please not... if that's the case then I'll skip this one.A So So Sniper wrote:In my opinion, this game has a really high chance of bringing back the classic gameplay so many old Halo fans have adored! I am so pumped for this!
The community complains, yet they're a small percentage of the players. Their opinion and input is really important, but it's not be-all, specially if they can't get over a 15 year old game.
Also, Citation Needed for your last paragraph.
As I say, 2 and 3 kept their base cause the era was so much different, Live was new, H2 was the first of it's kind, there weren't many other competitors, there were less games, etc... times change.
I don't have the citation and I won't do the numbers, but I'm pretty sure that maybe even less than 1% of the halo players have participated in this topic. You're free to do the math if you want to.
This idea that the classic Halo fans are a minority is very worrying to me. On waypoint, it looks more like that due to the fact that most people on waypoint are fans of the CURRENT games, while classic fans wouldn't bother posting on forums for a game they don't play. But at the end of the day the player base and community was significantly larger for the older games. This is not to say that the new games are objectively worse, but that there is a LARGE market for a classic Halo gameplay styled game, and that demand is not really reflected well on Waypoint. Look at classic Halo players like Ninja who have left the series with the recent installments, but who frequently express desire for a classic Halo game. Similarly, on YouTube you will find a large proportion of channels expressing a desire to play classic Halo. These people have large fanbases and large influence. People do want this, and that isn't to say we should just ignore all the newer fans, but classic fans have been starved of content for years now.
This is something I hope 343 is noticing, and that a classic Halo game would likely do extremely well and I hope they don't take the Waypoint feedback as gospel. Gotta be aware of the sample set.