Sorry I meant Halo 5 controls:)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.I'd have to disagree with you there. Dual-wielding made laughingstocks of the weapons that it claimed, with them becoming weaker and more redundant. Compare CE's AR and PR to H2-3's SMG and PR and you'll see a prime example of DW's toll on the weapon sandbox. It was a lackluster mechanic that was supposed to promote more weapon combos, but didn't add anything that couldn't have been done with the standard two-weapon system.ZEPHER289 wrote:Also add duel wielding, it just makes you feel like such a bad -Yoink-.
Alright, then how would they make it look and feel like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities and while keeping the H5 controls?ZEPHER289 wrote:Sorry I meant Halo 5 controls:)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.
Return of classic looks, classic open world feel and classic story type. You don’t need to have classic controls to make the game feel like Halo.A6ENT C wrote:Alright, then how would they make it look and feel like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities and while keeping the H5 controls?ZEPHER289 wrote:Sorry I meant Halo 5 controls:)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.
What do you mean by “because of chronology” and “this isn’t Reach”, anyways?
Classic: No sprint, abilities, aim down sights, small maps, fast base movement, two teams on a level playing field, and a skill based ranking system,zInsurge wrote:Just so we can put an exact definition on what the term “classic gameplay” refers to, can someone please list all the elements of what makes the old gameplay “classic”?
Many people would disagree, and say that the gameplay is absolutely among the most important things, if not the most important thing, that makes the feel of the game. You can say whatever you want, you can do whatever you want, but if it has Spartan Abilities, then it won't feel like classic Halo (at least for the people who care the most about the classic feel).ZEPHER289 wrote:Return of classic looks, classic open world feel and classic story type. You don’t need to have classic controls to make the game feel like Halo.A6ENT C wrote:Alright, then how would they make it look and feel like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities and while keeping the H5 controls?ZEPHER289 wrote:Sorry I meant Halo 5 controls:)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.
What do you mean by “because of chronology” and “this isn’t Reach”, anyways?
Fair point, now that I think about it here’s what I think they should do (in my opinion).tsassi wrote:Many people would disagree, and say that the gameplay is absolutely among the most important things, if not the most important thing, that makes the feel of the game. You can say whatever you want, you can do whatever you want, but if it has Spartan Abilities, then it won't feel like classic Halo (at least for the people who care the most about the classic feel).ZEPHER289 wrote:Return of classic looks, classic open world feel and classic story type. You don’t need to have classic controls to make the game feel like Halo.A6ENT C wrote:Alright, then how would they make it look and feel like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities and while keeping the H5 controls?ZEPHER289 wrote:Sorry I meant Halo 5 controls:)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.
What do you mean by “because of chronology” and “this isn’t Reach”, anyways?
Reach went back to original style gameplay, dropped duel wielding and other things (I.e. certain veichles) to make it line up with Halo CE if Halo Infinite is Halo 6 then it wouldn’t make sense to unmake all the abilities done in Halo 5.A6ENT C wrote:Alright, then how would they make it look and feel like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities and while keeping the H5 controls?ZEPHER289 wrote:Sorry I meant Halo 5 controls:)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.
What do you mean by “because of chronology” and “this isn’t Reach”, anyways?
I came here today to start a topic on this. Looks like I'm way late to the party - 608 replies already... I didn't get a chance to read through yet, but I wanted to add my 2 cents.A So So Sniper wrote:In my opinion, this game has a really high chance of bringing back the classic gameplay so many old Halo fans have adored! I am so pumped for this!
EDIT: Wow, I didn't expect such diverse opinions on this subject. The Halo community really is split in half. I'm sorry you have to deal with us, 343 :/
EDIT: 500 comments. What have I done?
I think they should make the pistol O.P. J.K. Lol (pistol was fun to use though)BlinKid182 wrote:I came here today to start a topic on this. Looks like I'm way late to the party - 608 replies already... I didn't get a chance to read through yet, but I wanted to add my 2 cents.A So So Sniper wrote:In my opinion, this game has a really high chance of bringing back the classic gameplay so many old Halo fans have adored! I am so pumped for this!
EDIT: Wow, I didn't expect such diverse opinions on this subject. The Halo community really is split in half. I'm sorry you have to deal with us, 343 :/
EDIT: 500 comments. What have I done?
I'm really hoping that they slow this game down a lot. No sprint, no thrusters, and most importantly a slower time to kill. It feels like in H5 every gun strips your shield and kills you in absolutely no time. There is no chance to actually battle it out like in the original halo games... also guns feel way too equal in power imo
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Maybe all weapons have zoom LT* and less snipe spots? And not gameplay styles that make it easier for people with elite controllersUnknown wrote:Simple to learn, hard to master. So basic movement to accomodate for controllers, a small to moderate number of player tools (weapons, grenades, power-ups, etc.) that are each balanced for specific purposes, map design that allows for tactical experimentation and focuses on always having combat occur by not restricting movement too much and not being too large, vehicles on most medium to large maps, players starting the match with the exact same equipment, and an emphasis on picking up items on the map which are limited in amount, but have predictable respawns, to become more powerful.zInsurge wrote:Just so we can put an exact definition on what the term “classic gameplay” refers to, can someone please list all the elements of what makes the old gameplay “classic”?
I'm probably missing something, but those are the most important ones, in my opinion.
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I'll agree to a certain point, the Idea of Dual Wielding was good, but it wasn't implemented wery well (as you allready said)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.I'd have to disagree with you there. Dual-wielding made laughingstocks of the weapons that it claimed, with them becoming weaker and more redundant. Compare CE's AR and PR to H2-3's SMG and PR and you'll see a prime example of DW's toll on the weapon sandbox. It was a lackluster mechanic that was supposed to promote more weapon combos, but didn't add anything that couldn't have been done with the standard two-weapon system.ZEPHER289 wrote:Also add duel wielding, it just makes you feel like such a bad -Yoink-.
My sentiments exactly... Just keep sprint and possibly clamber and I’ll be good with reverting everything else back to that smooth, classic feel. You hit this one perrrrrfectly! ;-)ZEPHER289 wrote:Return of classic looks, classic open world feel and classic story type. You don’t need to have classic controls to make the game feel like Halo.A6ENT C wrote:Alright, then how would they make it look and feel like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities and while keeping the H5 controls?ZEPHER289 wrote:Sorry I meant Halo 5 controls:)A6ENT C wrote:How would they make it look, feel, and control like classic Halo without backtracking on the Spartan Abilities?ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should stick to the classic movement controls (because of chronology) and I don’t think they should backtrack with the Spartan ability’s (this isn’t Reach) but I think they should make it look and feel like classic Halo.
What do you mean by “because of chronology” and “this isn’t Reach”, anyways?
I think they'd be better off scrapping sprint and simply increasing the base movement speed. That way, 343 won't have to design their maps around multiple movement speeds, and maybe the bullet magnetism won't be through the roof lol. Plus, players will be free to move at top speed in any direction rather than just forward.ZEPHER289 wrote:I think they should make the pistol O.P. J.K. Lol (pistol was fun to use though)BlinKid182 wrote:I came here today to start a topic on this. Looks like I'm way late to the party - 608 replies already... I didn't get a chance to read through yet, but I wanted to add my 2 cents.A So So Sniper wrote:In my opinion, this game has a really high chance of bringing back the classic gameplay so many old Halo fans have adored! I am so pumped for this!
EDIT: Wow, I didn't expect such diverse opinions on this subject. The Halo community really is split in half. I'm sorry you have to deal with us, 343 :/
EDIT: 500 comments. What have I done?
I'm really hoping that they slow this game down a lot. No sprint, no thrusters, and most importantly a slower time to kill. It feels like in H5 every gun strips your shield and kills you in absolutely no time. There is no chance to actually battle it out like in the original halo games... also guns feel way too equal in power imo
Also good idea but I do like sprint maybe they could just make the maps more open?
