i did and read it again.I doesnt motivate me to play ffa more if you give me negative CSR when you do your best to even place 2nd,especially if you play against people with worse connections or smurfs.Ill try to manage though.
i think the ffa ranking system is broken zaedyn.I just played a game of ranked ffa on truth i got 24 kills,was 1st place most of the games w 16 mag kills and i finished 2nd place and i was diamond 6,i had 1 game left until i could reach onyx(the blue bar that shows how close i am was really close to the edge) and then the game gives me a negative CSR,what gives cause i thought finishing top 3 would at least give you positive?Read the first bullet point of the first post in this topic.
I am forced to agree with this person above, and with another person in another H5 Matchmaking thread whom I will also quote shortly. Referring to the previous post I made on “FFA Ranking Broken”, I want to both elaborate and further mirror some evidence against the points which I made in that post. I took a weeklong break from Halo due to this whole “CSR Updating Fix”, and gave FFA a chance again last night. I played a grand total of 14 FFA games last night in which I scored 2 matches in First Place, 4 matches in Second Place, 3 matches in Third Place, and the remainder in which I placed fourth and fifth. The times in which I scored second or lower place, I lost MUCH of the time to an UNRANKED player which caused my CSR to unbelievably degrade, which was a blood-boiler. What is the basis on your algorithm for losses to an UNRANKED player? The system seems skewed, that the ranking system believes that that the unranked guy is a noob and clearly I’m being punished for losing to him (“losing” being 2nd place), even though the Unranked is blatantly a Smurf. The weighted punishment for losing to such Unranked Smurfs is FAR, far too heavy. The basic trend I’ve noticed in my game outcome is that generally speaking, I’m in the top 3 player tier of the scored outcome in each game, and by and large still, I CONTINUE to lose CSR. I find this fix to your system (343) disturbingly demoralizing and overall unfair to players like myself who have GROUND up since the beginning of their ranked careers on Halo 5: furthermore, players like myself and the dude in the other thread who have LEGITIMATELY won their way up previously to Onyx by placing 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in the lion’s share of most FFA games they’ve played. Why is it that my CSR doesn’t agree with my supposed MMR? Obviously, I had originally won my way up to Onyx initially for a reason ---- due to skill, and I did so fairly on my own steam, not utilizing Smurf accounts or having a buddy play on my behalf, etc etc etc. The final trend, and frankly, the feeling I and a great mass of other Halo players are also experiencing, is sheer and utter demoralization and loss of motivation in playing this game. In essence, the trend being compartmentalized is that if you play, and do well, you will still LOSE, and furthermore, to an unknown degree. I’ve fallen in rank now from low level Onyx to Platinum-6 FFA, and where does the CSR loss END? That aspect also is immensely demoralizing and extremely unmotivating. I’m sorry ZaedynFel…you state that CSR degression/loss is because MMR is not in agreement with CSR, but I’ll reiterate the basic point: I previously rose to Onyx FFA initially due to mainly placing in the top 3 tier of each match, not by scraping by with CSR awarded from fourth (or fifth?) place. I, personally, didn’t find it easy or a cakewalk at all to grind from initially Gold/whatever up to Onyx…..so whoever keeps stating that it was originally too easy, is spouting ridiculous fallacies. The system, altogether, is broken, and punishing players for doing well and continuing to support your game is absolutely not the way to do it.
The other guy who posted was in “FFA Ranking Broken” Thread, and was by JayDaDevil666: “15 hours ago
JayDaDEvIL666 Marine - Iron
a LvL99 Jay wrote:
Guys, it's just "catching up" with where your CSR should really be. If you're losing CSR, it's because your CSR was too high in the first place. Once it has gotten to where it's supposed to be, your +/- progression will even out and not be so crazy. And stop with the "winning 10 straight" hyperbole, none of you are winning 10 in a row at your already-inflated ranks anyway lmao.
Exactly. Our CSR is much higher in FFA than it's supposed to be since they've been awarding CSR as longn as you don't finish last. Once it evens out, from what I understand, it'll be more like it should've been from the start (CSR awarded only for top 3). I personally am glad for the change, gaining CSR for placing 5th is ridiculous. Glad that ranking up in FFA should now be about skill rather than just a grind fest like it has been.
The thing is what about players like me who got their Onyx/Champ by always placing Top 3 ? We're still experiencing CSR loss for 2nd and 3rd placements, I have no issue with the fix just that to drop it in mid-season seems to be very disruptive to the FFA community and in my opinion should of been introduced at the start of the new season with some information released beforehand instead of dropping it in suddenly leaving players in the dark with no clue as to what is happening.
Also, if you want credentials on who I am for credibility on intelligence, analytical ability, or whatever, I have twin four year university degrees, one in biochemistry/pre-medical science, the other degree in music/guitar performance. I also have a 2 year degree in Paramedicine and have worked as a Paramedic for 4 years now, understand mathematics/Calculus, physics and also general algorithmic principles greatly, so I like to consider myself an overall intelligent guy. I also can speak 3 languages fluently. Not some schmuck. Just my 2cents with this whole ordeal. Many have previously posted on this exact complaint and will continue to do so probably for the foreseeable future. Please, 343, consider that your currently overhauled ranking system is QUITE broken.