Why people seem to think there are so many teams out there, there is not.So you have the data that shows how many teams are playing every day in a playlist? Please enlighten us.
Huh? Every playlist is a TEAM playlist with the exception of FFA so solo players don't really have a choice but to play in them and they shouldn't get screwed over because of that. 343 should've had something in place to accommodate parties and solo players when the game launched. It's actually sad that it's almost two years later and they're just recently starting to work on something for that.
Quote:I'm really tired of people complaining about seeing teams in TEAM playlists. Your in a TEAM playlist, you should except to see teams lol this isn't a hard concept to grasp lol Especially in ranked.
"For the most part." Lol, I run into full parties on a daily basis and get stomped at least once a day. You know why? Because the party matching system in social is awful so you have parties of onyx and champion players for example getting matched against silver level skilled players with overall negative K/D's. And I really doubt the playlist (BTB for me) would have problems finding enough people around the area of their skill level to match them with in a reasonable time.
Quote:Are you going to have some games where you play against full organized team and you get stomped? sure, but for the most part that's not going to happen. So many people expect to win every game I feel and when they don't it's complain, complain, complain...
I don't expect to win every game, but a lot of times in my experience I'll go on losing streaks where I'll lose 5-6 games in a row and only win 1 game and then go back to losing multiple games. If it's a rare occurrence, then it's not an issue, but it happens a lot and it's frustrating. I would much rather have wins and losses mixed more evenly.
This is the one thing I agree with you on besides the separate social and ranked stats. It's crazy that they're just recently working on this instead of having something at launch.
Quote:As people have stated including myself, the game should try to match full teams of equal skill against other full teams of equal skill BUT after so much time of waiting, if no team can be found it should start filling the spots with partial teams then solo players of equal skill. 343I are working on things like this.
Wow, lol ok clam down there buddy :)
No I don't have any data on how many teams are out there (I should of put at any given time, my mistake) but it's safe to say it's not tons, as the population of halo 5 isn't that great. I have played over 2900 games in ranked/social play, A lot in teams, A lot solo. I see you have played a lot too. Even if 1 out of every 10 games I've played is against a full team in any mode (Team Slayer, BTB, etc) that means out of my 2900 games, 290 of them have been this. Still not bad and I know it's around that many. So you get stomped....ok, how many games in your last 30 did you? How many of those do you know FOR SURE it was a full team that was talking? A lot of people when they get stomped always assume it's a full team when it's not always at all. Also, if you play long enough and/or you play on a daily basis and play a lot which it sounds like you do, your bound to run into full teams eventually. Full teams I feel aren't the really the problem either I think, the skill level of players you play are, but how do you do this without making it ranked? Remember, higher level players like to play things like BTB too and they deserve to find games as well.
Yes I agree 343I should of had a better match making system in off the bat, but they didn't. So not point crying about split milk, might as well try and fix it or at least get better idea's and I think that is happening (Case in point information we have learned here for the last x amount of weeks) Do I wish things got fixed or changed sooner? Yes, of course!!! but it's wasn't and more likely it won't. So might as well deal with the hand that is dealt to us. I know every playlist is a team one minus FFA and Firefight in a way (as you fight AI and not human players) so people need to expect that they might run into teams as halo has team play and has always been about team play. You shouldn't be punished for wanting to play with your friends on a team and if they did teams only play other teams, especially without taking into consideration the teams skill levels, teams would have super long wait times and/or teams would play the same teams over and over again. That isn't fair at all nor is it fun. Yes I know getting stomped on isn't fun either, but unless this is happening to you every other game, then to me it's just how it is. It's going to happen from time to time. You want Halo to be a game where people say to there friends "Hey lets go play halo" not "Hey lets go play Halo...oh wait, forget it, we can never find games when we play as a team...lets go play something else" So are you one of these people who want a solo queue playlist then? I truly hope not as it's already been show that they don't help things at all and aren't the answer.
You play a lot of social I see BTB, fiesta etc. Fiesta can be blow outs easily so I won't even comment on that game mode. Social matches up anyone of any skill if my understanding is right. If the game matches up people of similar skill in social, you'd have player who can't find games and that isn't fair for that. Secondly,do you have the data that shows BTB wouldn't have a problem finding teams of players? You don't, just like I don't. Your assuming there is, which I understand why you would, but still you don't. I'd argue Team Slayer will have more teams then BTB would for obvious reasons. I play a good amount of BTB too, and I RARELY run into full parties. It's hard to get 8 people on at the same time, let alone everyone talking. Are you communicating with your team when you play BTB? I'm guessing not, so odds of your team loosing is down right there. If you don't talk your much more likely to lose or be blow out in any playlist. People might know this, but they don't ever seem to take it into consideration, they just come on here and complain. People want to play social yet they want to play people of there skill level. To me, that is hard to do without putting in some kind of skill ranking system, so in a sense your making it ranked. 343I did have BTB ranked off the bat, most people didn't like it. So what do you do then? I'm open to idea's as I'm sure they are too.
Look, I understand the frustration, I really do. At the end of the day we want the same things. Yes, I think 343I can do a better system, and yes I wish it was in off the bat as well, but like I said, this is what we have at the moment so not much we can do other then give fed back. I don't understand either why it's taken so long for things to happen, I know part of it is that certain things can't happen in Halo 5 due to how it was programed and such and I get that.... but at least it sounds like something is happening. Ranked and social stats being separate would help some things I think for sure and should be in future halo games. People want fair games but don't want them ranked which is arguably pretty hard to do I think ....people want to win, have close games and no blow outs, but don't want to talk to there team to help win.... and so on..... I don't know about you, but I think some of the problem at least is the attitude of people themselves and not the game.