@NBK DarkWarlock
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false and you know it, i check my stat today and in arena before the tuning i had almost more kill with the br than the magnum, now i have less than 10 kill. the magnum is better and more consistent like the old br
What’s false and I know it?
The pre-tune BR outperformed the standard Magnum in just about every single way. It had the same hip-fire RRR while possessing a much bigger ADS RRR. The burst was incredibly tight which sort of mimicked the single round shots of the Magnum. Its recoil wasn’t anywhere near as dramatic as it is now and paired with the tight burst the weapon had fairly similar consistency to the Magnum too. Its optimal TTK was just about the same as the standard Magnum, less than a hair slower, but its sub-optimal TTK was better. It was a very lethal weapon out to a pretty long range and in just about every way an upgrade to the standard Magnum.
The pre-tuned DMR also outperformed the standard Magnum in most ways too. It possessed noticeably more aim assistance in both bullet and reticle magnetisms, longer hip-fire RRR, plus ADS RRR. The optimal TTK was the slowest (it was approximately the same as the H2BR at that time), but the sub-optimal TTK was on par with the pre-tuned H5BR which was quicker than the standard Magnum. The DMR was also a very lethal weapon covering a ton of range and again in just about every way it proved to be an upgrade to the standard Magnum.
These were reasons why during the 2017 HaloWC the strategy being executed by the top team(s) involved primarily using and maintaining control of the map’s rifles; in other words, teams were prioritizing them. The weapon tuning 343 performed not only looked to make the AR a more skillful weapon and aimed to turn the BR + gunfighter Magnum into a replacement loadout option (for the arena environment), but it also attempted to ensure that many of the other weapons would feature more prominent trade-offs that would make them clearly situational in their use instead of as pure upgrades to the standard Magnum.
It makes perfect sense that you would seek out the BR on maps in its pre-tuned state and that you would perform well with it. Everything I wrote previously in the last thread basically acknowledged that 343 stopped the tuning prematurely. There was room for further refinement modifications; though, much more minimal tunes overall. I would say to the BR, SMG, gunfighter Magnum, LR, tactical Magnum, the sniper weapons, and while I use to be someone who thought the standard Magnum was perfect as it was I’ve come around to believing it could use very minor tweaks too in-light of where the other weapons have been adjusted to better fit within the arena sandbox.
@HaloGoodBngieBd
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Yeah, Comfort caught my eye also. The possibility of the best players in the world using a weapon because of comfort as opposed to which one is better seems highly unlikely.
My point was that in the absence of a weapon being clearly better or superior than another they’ll choose comfort and convenience.
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That's how I found out the Magnum had become better than almost all precision rifles, I saw that the pros weren't picking up anything but the Light Rifle.
The Magnum is situationally “better” just as several of the other weapons are situationally “better”. It can be argued that in its current state perhaps the situational advantages granted to the standard Magnum are either too many or to great relative to many of the non-power weapons commonly found within the arena environment given the sandbox’s current state. Nevertheless, only the BR and SMG seem to be clearly inferior considering they’ve been designed to possess or fill similar situational roles to the standard Magnum and in a way the AR. In saying that, I’m relating the BR to the Magnum and the SMG to the AR regarding their purposes.
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Wouldn't they have continued using the BR if they were more comfortable with it?
If it had been made the loadout weapon and it was not outclassed by the standard Magnum and other precision weapons in just about every single way then perhaps.
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At that time in matchmaking, people were still using all of the other precision rifles, as well. After the final weapon tuning, I agree that Carbine and DMR have situational advantages. I've seen pros using them more often, but I don't think comfort is a factor
What I was implying was that since players are not often ensured to face an ideal situation relative to a particular weapon’s designed purpose they don’t tend to put a huge emphasis on seeking out and controlling those situational weapons like they would a power weapon or a weapon that’s basically a pure upgrade to the utility weapon. Knowing that they can remain competitive with their utility Magnum, a weapon they possess a lot of experience (aka comfort) with and is convenient (aka loadout), it allows them to find a greater use for it within a wider variety of situations than its actual design may suggest it would normally possess.
