Yes, keeping in mind this feature is not out yet.RzR J3ST3R wrote:I don't really have an opinion about whether this feature should be in ranked or not. I'm personally fine with teams having an advantage over solo players in Ranked. Use your main account for your team play, and make an alt account to play as your solo ranked account - that simple. But I also don't think it would break the ranked playlists to include this adjustment. It would in theory just make the ranks more accurate...?SGO SMACK wrote:It’s fine in social modes. I just don’t want to see it in ranked play.RzR J3ST3R wrote:eLantern wrote:SGO SMACK wrote:If you assume a to4 diamond can play more like onyx’s and because of that, a to4 diamonds has to play against a to4 random onyx’s, they are going to get smoked.
this new system probably works decent for the silver vs gold level of players but a to4 low level onyx players will get stomped by a to4 random champs.
I THINK Josh previously said that the MMR team adjustment would be used for choosing balanced/fair matches, but NOT for computing CSR adjustments after the match, so you would still gain a lot of CSR if you beat a team of solo onyx players while running a To4 mid-diamonds. In other words, it would still be in your interest to roll with a team if you want to rank up. (Josh, please correct me if I'm wrong there). I personally think that's the best way - it rewards you with rank improvements if you can play effectively as a team, but doesn't give you hopeless matches if you're a solo player.
In any case, for social playlists I think the team MMR adjustment factor would be quite helpful.
But when it is, when we match solo Onyx players with a to4 Diamonds, the Onyx player Ranks will go up / down as if they played against players with Onyx MMR.
Also, as you've said, this is a better experience for the to4 Diamond players, because they Rank up faster by playing better teams with an equal win%.
Otherwise, they are stuck playing random Diamonds and getting less for a win, and losing more for a loss.
So, if possible, it's in the best interests of the to4 to play either solo Onyx players, or play against other Diamond to4's who will "look" to the ranking system as if they are Onyx, and they'll get more Rank for it.
So better for both matchmaking and Ranking really.
In today's world, if we were to just only match to4 vs. to4, then you get the opposite.
You get Diamond players who actually play like Onyx, but are stuck in Diamond because Diamond goes 50/50 vs. Diamond. You have solo Diamond players at the same Rank who are definitely worse than these to4 Diamonds, but since they never play each other, we never know.
Meanwhile, you have solo Onyx players who aren't any better than the to4 Diamonds, but get to be Onyx because they are beating solo Onyx players.
So if we segment out Fireteams, they actually end up with WORSE Ranks in the end than Solo players.
At that point, who are we catering to?