[Locked] Should Sprint/Flinch stay in the Halo series?

1401 votes total right now...

I think Ghost, Ninja, and Saucey should do a 2 hour long discussion video regarding this sprint/flinch on youtube if the vote totals reaches 2000 :)

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I really enjoy it when you guys do long discussion videos on youtube :)

If the maps aren't made with sprint in mind (aka smaller maps), moving from point A to B will not be a problem. Also the whole "Spartans should be able to sprint because they're badass spartans" argument is something that doesn't really make sense.

The multiplayer shouldn't be about realism to the game's characters, it's about making it as fun as possible. If adding something ridiculous like spartans being able to cast spells on other players is fun, then it is not a bad idea. Although that example obviously is terrible.

Flinch doesn't belong here, take it out!

I've been playing Halo since Halo 2 and I strongly believe flinch should be removed from Halo 4 and the old ways (getting scoped out) should be brought back. Flinch drops the skill gap too much, making the game not as fun.

As for sprint, I'd like to see it gone as well. However, I know a lot of the new community likes it so I'm okay with leaving it in. If I had to choose between replacing flinch with zooming out or taking out sprint, I would definitely remove flinch.

No sprint and discope and button combo wiht spectator mode thats dream halo

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I think de-scope is a necessary mechanic, but sprint can go either way for competitive play, so long as the maps are specifically designed for one or the other. While no sprint feels nice, we can't just keep on trying to replicate Halo 2 and 3 forever, and I think it is possible to design maps which play just as well as past maps did without sprint.

Why can't we stick to the formula that Halo CE-3 have perfected we've seen what happens when Bungie/343 tried to change Halo isn't too something it isn't with both Reach/4.

They had a massive population drop compare that to Halo 3 which consistently had over 100k players on daily in it's prime.

Why would they keep going down this path when it should be clear most Halo fans don't not like the direction that Reach/4 are going in.

Could take them both out and I wouldn't care. I only use sprint to get to weapon spawns and in slayer pro so I don't get assassinated. Slayer Pro would be much more enjoyable without sprint. And taking away Flinch would just add more skill to the game.

Sprint is ok. Flinch MUST go.

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Cheap? They took precise timing and practice to master. They added a lot more depth to the game.

Apparently glitches that are not meant to be in a game adds more depth to it. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. That's like saying you hated every halo game up to this point that doesn't have button combos.

They most certainly added more depth to the game. Whether intentional or not, anything that gives you more options to win a battle adds depth to gameplay. If you're caught off guard, someone has two shots on you already, and you can preform a pretty difficult quadshot and still kill them, something that creates a very distinct skill gap (Even thought it wasn't purposely put into the game), that is more depth. In the same situation in Halo 3, the option to quadshot is completely removed, and players (even the skilled ones) have to either run or die unless they can team shot the enemy or land a good nade and take them down before the enemy hits the last two shots, all of which were options in Halo 2 as well.

Lets looks at like this. Same situation, lets compare the options between games.

Halo 2: Run, die, teamshot, double/quadshot, BXR/BXB (if the enemy is close), out strafe and kill, stick, nade and kill.

Halo 3: Run, die, teamshot, out strafe and kill, stick, nade and kill.

Less options in battle = less depth in gameplay.

A major part of competitive Halo has always been in depth gameplay. Events players are able to control that separate the more skilled players from the less skilled players. Things like influencing spawns, controlling power weapons, timing power ups, trick jumps, and even button combos.

As Halo has progressed, however, a lot of options have been replaced with things that, while they are still options, are much easier to do and reduce the skill gap. Not much use in trick jumping up to rockets when you can just jetpack your way up there. not much use in controlling the power weapons on the map when you can just wait for your ordnance.

I know this is going into a different tangent now, so I'm going to stop.

i loved how halo 2 played and i'm sure that everyone loved it too... i really don't know why the people at 343 don't understand how to make changes... it's not so difficult, it's all about the core of the game... and flinch and sprint modify too much the core of the game, as dmr would... but for example hardlight shield and light rifle wouldn't... because the light rifle is not so different from br and actually requires skill... ordinances totally ruin the game for example... extraction for example works good... it's the core of the game that has not to change... if one goes to play halo 3 and then halo 4 may think: wait what? what the -Yoink- happened?