I agree! Was actually better than I thought it would be....party issues arise and need some tweaks for when players drop in matching....but warlords actually ran smooth....which was nice for a change...Nofunnyideas wrote:I had probably the most fun playing halo since launch last night. Warlords is awesome.
The playlist does expose the wasp though. Something needs to be tweaked there.
Warlords shouldnt be be a race to req level 3 then a wasp snowball. I would move it to level 4. At level 3 there are at least reqs available to effectively take down more than 1 wasp.
I would like to see all wasps taken out of warlords entirely but I know that isn't feasible.
But it's a big win for 343 putting in this playlist. The best things to happen to halo were afterthoughts and unintended, like halo CE multiplayer ( look what that started). How 343 embraces the competitive warzone community may help shape and put their stamp on halo.
I agree. The Banshee should have a cool down on the Banshee bomb or get rid of it. That thing gets spammed like no tomorrow in the Ultra. The Warthog gunner is too open to fire as well like you mentioned making it basically a death trap.HWM Sarge wrote:I think beyond moving REQ levels around (moving all wasps up 1 REQ point and maybe moving Whiplash up 1) some weapons and vehicles may need to be modified. Banshee spam continues the overwhelming nature of aerial superiority
Regular WZ is still a crapshoot against farmers... I've had a fair few games this weekend and if I haven't been farmed, i've been slaughtered by 6 man teams...SKAVENGER368 wrote:I agree! Was actually better than I thought it would be....party issues arise and need some tweaks for when players drop in matching....but warlords actually ran smooth....which was nice for a change...Nofunnyideas wrote:I had probably the most fun playing halo since launch last night. Warlords is awesome.
The playlist does expose the wasp though. Something needs to be tweaked there.
Warlords shouldnt be be a race to req level 3 then a wasp snowball. I would move it to level 4. At level 3 there are at least reqs available to effectively take down more than 1 wasp.
I would like to see all wasps taken out of warlords entirely but I know that isn't feasible.
But it's a big win for 343 putting in this playlist. The best things to happen to halo were afterthoughts and unintended, like halo CE multiplayer ( look what that started). How 343 embraces the competitive warzone community may help shape and put their stamp on halo.
I wonder how much the 6man warzone benefited from having the more experienced warzone players flock to warlords?....I'd keep a mind to that as well....thanks 343....
im a HUGE advocate of limiting the amount of flips a banshee can do to shake a lock....it should be timed and recharged not unlike how boost has to recharge...HWM Sarge wrote:You will see a lot of feedback about the need for adjusting the REQ level of the Wasps, but the bigger problem in competitive Warzone is the ability of a team to overwhelm another with the same REQ. Before teams raced to 3 to start a REQ snowball with the Wasp, they used the Whiplash.
I think beyond moving REQ levels around (moving all wasps up 1 REQ point and maybe moving Whiplash up 1) some weapons and vehicles may need to be modified. Banshee spam continues the overwhelming nature of aerial superiority, but lock on weapons and rocket hogs can do absolutely nothing to fight them against competent pilots.
Overall, the best consistent counter to the aerial vehicles is a dedicated Warthog. However, the Warthog occupants are completely vulnerable to sniper and precision weapons while the aerial vehicles all have shields to preserve their health, banshees/phaetons can flip/dash to throw off locks, and their occupants are inside of the vehicle completely. Additionally, a Warthog requires two people to work together while Wasps, Banshees, and Phaetons only require one person.
I like where your train of thought is headed to an extent, but mechanics to bring the losing team up to the winning team doesn't really have a place in competitive. Spam wasps is broken, but that doesn't mean we need to give the lesser skilled team additional benefits. Losing should serve as an opportunity to expose a team's weakness and learn where to improve.HWM Jon wrote:What does 343 think of a REQ rubberbanding system? As one team pulled ahead in REQ level the system would kick in to pull the other teams level up to keep them within a specified margin of like 2-4 levels.
It would punish teams who sacrificed map control to spam Wasps as they would just be pulling the other teams level up while they raised their own. All forms of REQ spam would be nerfed as players would need to use a variety of REQs to control the map and push for the objectives as the other team would always be right on their tail.
Make it less about who can get their REQ level snowballing first and more about which team can use the most weapons the best, while still giving a slight advantage to the better slayers.
