FPS Boost is something done by the Xbox team, not 343i.SierraNGZK46 wrote:No, last year 343 explicitly stated H5 wouldn't get XS upgrades with the new consoles' launch and didn't have any plans to do so in the future either. It's a shame, but considering how handicapped they are with MCC and Infinite development it's also understandable. Here's hoping they make an upgrade once they get over current hurdles.
This is where things get messy.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is something done by the Xbox team, not 343i.SierraNGZK46 wrote:No, last year 343 explicitly stated H5 wouldn't get XS upgrades with the new consoles' launch and didn't have any plans to do so in the future either. It's a shame, but considering how handicapped they are with MCC and Infinite development it's also understandable. Here's hoping they make an upgrade once they get over current hurdles.
I’m aware of this. Developers enhanced games for One X when they had to push higher-res assets and so forth to consoles. The Xbox team pushed through One X enhancements for 360 games because their emulator allowed them to change graphical settings. They didn’t alter or add any assets.SierraNGZK46 wrote:This is where things get messy.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is something done by the Xbox team, not 343i.SierraNGZK46 wrote:No, last year 343 explicitly stated H5 wouldn't get XS upgrades with the new consoles' launch and didn't have any plans to do so in the future either. It's a shame, but considering how handicapped they are with MCC and Infinite development it's also understandable. Here's hoping they make an upgrade once they get over current hurdles.
Red Dead Redemption (2010), originally an Xbox 360 game designed to run at 720P@30FPS, became playable on the Xbox One thanks to Xbox team's work on the console's backward compatibility, and later got enhanced for the Xbox One X which allowed it to run at 4K@30FPS (same on XSX, 1440P@30FPS on XSS), without Rockstar's input. And Microsoft just announced they're bringing FPS boosts to some XB1 titles running on XS like Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs 2, Sniper Elite 4, also without the developers' help. This proves Microsoft can indeed enhance old games on their own.
However both H5 and MCC's X1X enhancements were made by 343i themself, as well as MCC's recent 120FPS XS enhancements. In the waypoint updated I mentioned, 343i openly said "While Halo 5 is not getting the same optimizations for Xbox Series X and Series S as MCC, owners of the next-gen hardware are still going to see the benefits of faster load times and consistently higher resolution gameplay", implying the Xbox team won't get involved in upgrades in this case.
So games can be enhanced by their original developers or the Xbox team. Sadly at the moment there are just no plans from either side to upgrade H5.
Yeah I was just talking about that article. Problem is, MCC's 120FPS patch wasn't achieved via "FPS Boost" but 343's own work instead (I mean yeah the end result is still an "FPS boost", just not that Xbox technology you quoted, and all personnel responsible for naming Microsoft's stuff should be fired at once, but I digress), and if I remember it right, the 360 Halos' 60FPS upgrades for the XB1 and their X1X 4K patches were also done by 343i. Maybe Halo's software is just tougher to externally enhance, maybe there are some business factors going on -- we won't get to know -- but for whatever reason the Xbox team never seemed to touch Halo games at all, and since this "FPS Boost" isn't an universal solution yet, we're likely out of luck, 120FPS H5 won't happen in the foreseeable future.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is to X|S what X enhanced was to the One X. Looking at it like this clears up a lot of things. Thus, 343i doesn’t need to have any input on this for X|S owners to get FPS Boost. If the back-compat team decides to work on it (assuming it’s technically feasible), players will get the Xbox One or One X version of H5 with higher framerates.SierraNGZK46 wrote:This is where things get messy.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is something done by the Xbox team, not 343i.SierraNGZK46 wrote:No, last year 343 explicitly stated H5 wouldn't get XS upgrades with the new consoles' launch and didn't have any plans to do so in the future either. It's a shame, but considering how handicapped they are with MCC and Infinite development it's also understandable. Here's hoping they make an upgrade once they get over current hurdles.
Red Dead Redemption (2010), originally an Xbox 360 game designed to run at 720P@30FPS, became playable on the Xbox One thanks to Xbox team's work on the console's backward compatibility, and later got enhanced for the Xbox One X which allowed it to run at 4K@30FPS (same on XSX, 1440P@30FPS on XSS), without Rockstar's input. And Microsoft just announced they're bringing FPS boosts to some XB1 titles running on XS like Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs 2, Sniper Elite 4, also without the developers' help. This proves Microsoft can indeed enhance old games on their own.
However both H5 and MCC's X1X enhancements were made by 343i themself, as well as MCC's recent 120FPS XS enhancements. In the waypoint updated I mentioned, 343i openly said "While Halo 5 is not getting the same optimizations for Xbox Series X and Series S as MCC, owners of the next-gen hardware are still going to see the benefits of faster load times and consistently higher resolution gameplay", implying the Xbox team won't get involved in upgrades in this case.
So games can be enhanced by their original developers or the Xbox team. Sadly at the moment there are just no plans from either side to upgrade H5.
EDIT: “To that end, the backward compatibility team has developed FPS Boost....”
Halo 3 on the 360 was one of the first games to get enhanced for One X by the back-compat team. That's the only 360 game that received any sort of enhancement thus far. There were no framerate upgrades when the game was enhanced for One X, other than the ones gained naturally by the One X being able to cope with tougher areas better than the 360. So, it's wrong to suggest the Xbox team has not touched any Halo games. There were requests to enhance Halo Reach and the other games as well, but 343i released Reach for MCC and enhanced all the games in the collection themselves, thereby negating a need for the back-compat team to do anything.SierraNGZK46 wrote:Yeah I was just talking about that article. Problem is, MCC's 120FPS patch wasn't achieved via "FPS Boost" but 343's own work instead (I mean yeah the end result is still an "FPS boost", just not that Xbox technology you quoted, and all personnel responsible for naming Microsoft's stuff should be fired at once, but I digress), and if I remember it right, the 360 Halos' 60FPS upgrades for the XB1 and their X1X 4K patches were also done by 343i. Maybe Halo's software is just tougher to externally enhance, maybe there are some business factors going on -- we won't get to know -- but for whatever reason the Xbox team never seemed to touch Halo games at all, and since this "FPS Boost" isn't an universal solution yet, we're likely out of luck, 120FPS H5 won't happen in the foreseeable future.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is to X|S what X enhanced was to the One X. Looking at it like this clears up a lot of things. Thus, 343i doesn’t need to have any input on this for X|S owners to get FPS Boost. If the back-compat team decides to work on it (assuming it’s technically feasible), players will get the Xbox One or One X version of H5 with higher framerates.SierraNGZK46 wrote:This is where things get messy.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is something done by the Xbox team, not 343i.SierraNGZK46 wrote:No, last year 343 explicitly stated H5 wouldn't get XS upgrades with the new consoles' launch and didn't have any plans to do so in the future either. It's a shame, but considering how handicapped they are with MCC and Infinite development it's also understandable. Here's hoping they make an upgrade once they get over current hurdles.
Red Dead Redemption (2010), originally an Xbox 360 game designed to run at 720P@30FPS, became playable on the Xbox One thanks to Xbox team's work on the console's backward compatibility, and later got enhanced for the Xbox One X which allowed it to run at 4K@30FPS (same on XSX, 1440P@30FPS on XSS), without Rockstar's input. And Microsoft just announced they're bringing FPS boosts to some XB1 titles running on XS like Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs 2, Sniper Elite 4, also without the developers' help. This proves Microsoft can indeed enhance old games on their own.
However both H5 and MCC's X1X enhancements were made by 343i themself, as well as MCC's recent 120FPS XS enhancements. In the waypoint updated I mentioned, 343i openly said "While Halo 5 is not getting the same optimizations for Xbox Series X and Series S as MCC, owners of the next-gen hardware are still going to see the benefits of faster load times and consistently higher resolution gameplay", implying the Xbox team won't get involved in upgrades in this case.
So games can be enhanced by their original developers or the Xbox team. Sadly at the moment there are just no plans from either side to upgrade H5.
EDIT: “To that end, the backward compatibility team has developed FPS Boost....”
Alright my memory about 360 games was wrong (I was refering to the original 360 versions, not the MCC, somehow I falsely recall H3 and ODST being able to run at 60FPS on XB1 backward compatibility), sorry for that.tuhin94 wrote:Probably best to not make claims about something being concrete and confusing others.SierraNGZK46 wrote:Yeah I was just talking about that article. Problem is, MCC's 120FPS patch wasn't achieved via "FPS Boost" but 343's own work instead (I mean yeah the end result is still an "FPS boost", just not that Xbox technology you quoted, and all personnel responsible for naming Microsoft's stuff should be fired at once, but I digress), and if I remember it right, the 360 Halos' 60FPS upgrades for the XB1 and their X1X 4K patches were also done by 343i. Maybe Halo's software is just tougher to externally enhance, maybe there are some business factors going on -- we won't get to know -- but for whatever reason the Xbox team never seemed to touch Halo games at all, and since this "FPS Boost" isn't an universal solution yet, we're likely out of luck, 120FPS H5 won't happen in the foreseeable future.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is to X|S what X enhanced was to the One X. Looking at it like this clears up a lot of things. Thus, 343i doesn’t need to have any input on this for X|S owners to get FPS Boost. If the back-compat team decides to work on it (assuming it’s technically feasible), players will get the Xbox One or One X version of H5 with higher framerates.SierraNGZK46 wrote:This is where things get messy.tuhin94 wrote:FPS Boost is something done by the Xbox team, not 343i.SierraNGZK46 wrote:No, last year 343 explicitly stated H5 wouldn't get XS upgrades with the new consoles' launch and didn't have any plans to do so in the future either. It's a shame, but considering how handicapped they are with MCC and Infinite development it's also understandable. Here's hoping they make an upgrade once they get over current hurdles.
Red Dead Redemption (2010), originally an Xbox 360 game designed to run at 720P@30FPS, became playable on the Xbox One thanks to Xbox team's work on the console's backward compatibility, and later got enhanced for the Xbox One X which allowed it to run at 4K@30FPS (same on XSX, 1440P@30FPS on XSS), without Rockstar's input. And Microsoft just announced they're bringing FPS boosts to some XB1 titles running on XS like Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs 2, Sniper Elite 4, also without the developers' help. This proves Microsoft can indeed enhance old games on their own.
However both H5 and MCC's X1X enhancements were made by 343i themself, as well as MCC's recent 120FPS XS enhancements. In the waypoint updated I mentioned, 343i openly said "While Halo 5 is not getting the same optimizations for Xbox Series X and Series S as MCC, owners of the next-gen hardware are still going to see the benefits of faster load times and consistently higher resolution gameplay", implying the Xbox team won't get involved in upgrades in this case.
So games can be enhanced by their original developers or the Xbox team. Sadly at the moment there are just no plans from either side to upgrade H5.
EDIT: “To that end, the backward compatibility team has developed FPS Boost....”
