[Locked] My argument for why Sprint belongs in Halo

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

GhostTW312 wrote:

Thurmanator7 wrote:

At least its not an armor ability

Hallelujah!

It didn't affect map design as an armor ability

Ehh.... you sure? Most maps on Reach weren't that amazing.

Yeah but that's just cause they got lazy and took them right out of Campaign. The DLC/Anniversary/Forge maps were awesome, in my opinion

Or they Incorporated maps into campaign lol. Forget what they said.

If your statement is correct, they had to think about sprint's affection slightly if we go by what you said, since you always have sprint as a starting armor ability in that mode.

Regardless, they had to build maps, both campaign and multiplayer (and yes, some were originally multiplayer maps), so that you could move around without sprint. You still had to switch out armor abilities, and they couldn't let that slow down the game. So, no

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

GhostTW312 wrote:

Thurmanator7 wrote:

At least its not an armor ability

Hallelujah!

It didn't affect map design as an armor ability

Ehh.... you sure? Most maps on Reach weren't that amazing.

Yeah but that's just cause they got lazy and took them right out of Campaign. The DLC/Anniversary/Forge maps were awesome, in my opinion

Or they Incorporated maps into campaign lol. Forget what they said.

If your statement is correct, they had to think about sprint's affection slightly if we go by what you said, since you always have sprint as a starting armor ability in that mode.

Regardless, they had to build maps, both campaign and multiplayer (and yes, some were originally multiplayer maps), so that you could move around without sprint. You still had to switch out armor abilities, and they couldn't let that slow down the game. So, no

Fair enough, but maps like The Cage and Countdown come to mind for me. Atleast Bungie had the right idea of making the ability to sprint an ability among other abilities, they had to know how powerful it can be.

I wasn't around for the DLC maps of Reach unfortunately.

I didn't get that feel from those maps, but yes sprint was powerful. But it was powerful because, again, maps were built around the base movement speed, so it actually gave players a real advantage. Now it's a necessity (and an annoyance for that, in my opinion), so it has lost that power. And there were other very powerful armor abilities like Active Camo, Armor Lock, and the one that over-powers them all (IMO again): Jet Pack

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

GhostTW312 wrote:

Thurmanator7 wrote:

At least its not an armor ability

Hallelujah!

It didn't affect map design as an armor ability

Ehh.... you sure? Most maps on Reach weren't that amazing.

Yeah but that's just cause they got lazy and took them right out of Campaign. The DLC/Anniversary/Forge maps were awesome, in my opinion

Or they Incorporated maps into campaign lol. Forget what they said.

If your statement is correct, they had to think about sprint's affection slightly if we go by what you said, since you always have sprint as a starting armor ability in that mode.

Regardless, they had to build maps, both campaign and multiplayer (and yes, some were originally multiplayer maps), so that you could move around without sprint. You still had to switch out armor abilities, and they couldn't let that slow down the game. So, no

Fair enough, but maps like The Cage and Countdown come to mind for me. Atleast Bungie had the right idea of making the ability to sprint an ability among other abilities, they had to know how powerful it can be.

I wasn't around for the DLC maps of Reach unfortunately.

I didn't get that feel from those maps, but yes sprint was powerful. But it was powerful because, again, maps were built around the base movement speed, so it actually gave players a real advantage. Now it's a necessity (and an annoyance for that, in my opinion), so it has lost that power. And there were other very powerful armor abilities like Active Camo, Armor Lock, and the one that over-powers them all (IMO again): Jet Pack

But building a game around a bad mechanic for Halo's gameplay doesn't make it any different.

Yes there were other abilities but we all know which one was arguably the most popular and used.

We will disagree on that first part.

It was the most popular because it offered the biggest advantage (compared to sprint in other games, that is). I would argue that sprint was the most popular just because most people are just accustomed to it because of other shooter games

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

GhostTW312 wrote:

Thurmanator7 wrote:

At least its not an armor ability

Hallelujah!

It didn't affect map design as an armor ability

Ehh.... you sure? Most maps on Reach weren't that amazing.

Yeah but that's just cause they got lazy and took them right out of Campaign. The DLC/Anniversary/Forge maps were awesome, in my opinion

Or they Incorporated maps into campaign lol. Forget what they said.

If your statement is correct, they had to think about sprint's affection slightly if we go by what you said, since you always have sprint as a starting armor ability in that mode.

Regardless, they had to build maps, both campaign and multiplayer (and yes, some were originally multiplayer maps), so that you could move around without sprint. You still had to switch out armor abilities, and they couldn't let that slow down the game. So, no

Fair enough, but maps like The Cage and Countdown come to mind for me. Atleast Bungie had the right idea of making the ability to sprint an ability among other abilities, they had to know how powerful it can be.

I wasn't around for the DLC maps of Reach unfortunately.

I didn't get that feel from those maps, but yes sprint was powerful. But it was powerful because, again, maps were built around the base movement speed, so it actually gave players a real advantage. Now it's a necessity (and an annoyance for that, in my opinion), so it has lost that power. And there were other very powerful armor abilities like Active Camo, Armor Lock, and the one that over-powers them all (IMO again): Jet Pack

But building a game around a bad mechanic for Halo's gameplay doesn't make it any different.

Yes there were other abilities but we all know which one was arguably the most popular and used.

We will disagree on that first part.

It was the most popular because it offered the biggest advantage (compared to sprint in other games, that is). I would argue that sprint was the most popular just because most people are just accustomed to it because of other shooter games

We agree to disagree heh.

But with 2 games and soon to be 3 now, we can't ignore sprint's influence forever.

P.S: Not every anti sprinter is an -Yoink- lol

I'm not ignoring it. Let's say, soon to be 2 games with universal sprint. So the Reach maps weren't that great. How much did you enjoy the Halo 4 maps?

KamikazePerro wrote:

GhostTW312 wrote:

Thurmanator7 wrote:

At least its not an armor ability

Hallelujah!

It didn't affect map design as an armor ability

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

Bryanneo wrote:

KamikazePerro wrote:

GhostTW312 wrote:

Thurmanator7 wrote:

At least its not an armor ability

Hallelujah!

It didn't affect map design as an armor ability

Ehh.... you sure? Most maps on Reach weren't that amazing.

Yeah but that's just cause they got lazy and took them right out of Campaign. The DLC/Anniversary/Forge maps were awesome, in my opinion

Or they Incorporated maps into campaign lol. Forget what they said.

If your statement is correct, they had to think about sprint's affection slightly if we go by what you said, since you always have sprint as a starting armor ability in that mode.

Regardless, they had to build maps, both campaign and multiplayer (and yes, some were originally multiplayer maps), so that you could move around without sprint. You still had to switch out armor abilities, and they couldn't let that slow down the game. So, no

Fair enough, but maps like The Cage and Countdown come to mind for me. Atleast Bungie had the right idea of making the ability to sprint an ability among other abilities, they had to know how powerful it can be.

I wasn't around for the DLC maps of Reach unfortunately.

I didn't get that feel from those maps, but yes sprint was powerful. But it was powerful because, again, maps were built around the base movement speed, so it actually gave players a real advantage. Now it's a necessity (and an annoyance for that, in my opinion), so it has lost that power. And there were other very powerful armor abilities like Active Camo, Armor Lock, and the one that over-powers them all (IMO again): Jet Pack

But building a game around a bad mechanic for Halo's gameplay doesn't make it any different.

Yes there were other abilities but we all know which one was arguably the most popular and used.

We will disagree on that first part.

It was the most popular because it offered the biggest advantage (compared to sprint in other games, that is). I would argue that sprint was the most popular just because most people are just accustomed to it because of other shooter games

We agree to disagree heh.

But with 2 games and soon to be 3 now, we can't ignore sprint's influence forever.

P.S: Not every anti sprinter is an -Yoink- lol

I'm not ignoring it. Let's say, soon to be 2 games with universal sprint. So the Reach maps weren't that great. How much did you enjoy the Halo 4 maps?

Some were good, like Exile, Solace and 2 Crimson maps I was able to play Harvest and Shatter.

4 had other problems though, some that persisted since Reach such as how vehicles work.

What I'm trying to say, though, is, compared to Halo Reach/3/other maps, what did you think. What I'm getting at is, I think sprint has debased quality off of maps in general. Do you think Halo 4 suffered from its maps, or was it close enough to other games?