I won't even touch the AR now, like everyone else I've seen in Match making so far they don't even use it and often use the Magnum instead.
Why would anybody seriously no touch the AR with an increase in headshot bonus by 200%? I say again, we must be playing a different game. I check the post game stats after every game. I am regularly seeing AR's, Magnum's, and even BR's as tools of destruction (not only in BTB).
It is is your choice not to use the AR. All I have to say about that is check out one of the most recent Vetoed tweets, with a clip of him using the AR exclusively. You are really missing out if you refuse to use the AR right now.
That's a big problem. Halo's Original Weapon Turning that crossed from Combat Evolved to Halo 2 to 3, Reach and EVEN HALO 4 was way better than this. 343I choice to change the Halo Code in the first place is why Halo 5 had a Major Drop in popularity in the first place (I'm talking about the community divide).
Halo code? Are you talking about the Holy Triangle? If that's what you mean that 343 has moved away from that, and that that was a negative thing then I agree with you. Other than that, I am not sure what you are talking about here.
Why go as far to change it even more 2 years later? It causes Backlash and Anarchy. Halo is starting to do the same thing that COD was doing with COD Ghost and Infinite Warfare. You can't expect to suddenly change something that's been that way for over 10 years and not expect people not to reprieve it well. I supported 343i until this. This Change is to major. I just want a Classic Halo. I want Halo to feel like it did back during Halo Reach and hell even Halo 4. Halo 5 is no longer fun in any aspect. I see now why Halo Community is dying.
This is where you really lost me. You say you can't change something, meaning Halo, that has been that way for, "over 10 years", but then you site Reach, and Halo 4 as a place you want to go back to. Reach was the beginning, in many Halo veterans eyes, of the drifting away from Classic Halo.
It doesn't sound to me like you want Halo to stay Classic. You want Halo 5 to stay like how Halo 5 was from the beginning. You want the long range of the AR, as well as the tight bullet spread. You want the BR that shoots in a complete straight line, only moving slightly upwards, which in turn helps players get that last headshot. Oh and don't forget the long range and every forgiving aim assist that goes along with it.
Finally, if you want Halo to feel like it did back in Halo 4 then you have no real grasp on classic Halo. Halo 4 was the farthest from classic Halo as we could get.
I have been around this community since the Reach days, and there has been talk, all the while, that the Halo community is dead. Well let's see. We have the Forge community, the Halo racing community (at least I think that is still a thing), the Customs community, the BTB community, the Grifball community, the Pro/HCS community, the Halo Lore community, the Mythic campaign community, the Halo Youtube community...do you see what I am getting at here? It's going to take a lot more than a measley Weapons update in Halo 5 to kill this community. If MCC didn't kill us, then...well could we be immune to community death?
Edit: I mentioned the Forge community before I read FRED lllll's post. I hope that these changes and glitches are fixed for the Forgers. It is more than unfortunate that this update has caused so many problems for that part of the community.
I like how the majority of the people who like the new changes are low SR and lower rank players or thay almost exclusively play Arena this update was fine for arena in my opinion but it really hurt btb and Warzone assault and warzone.the new BR has killed a lot of companies and pushed a lot of people away from this game it's a real shame.This is such a great point. These changes were made to coddle the Arena players and to protect how the small maps play in Arena. There is no way you can make all these changes and extend their usefulness or logic to a BTB or WZ size map. I wonder sometimes if the employees even play the game. I play 5 or 7 nights a week in BTB and Warzone, and I have run into 343 emblems 2 or 3 times ( they always go negative). I am suspecting they just read the pro Arena players complaints and jump to make changes to satisfy their beloved ranked playlists. They need to watch NAS's (Precillence) youtube videos. The guy is a hot head, but he makes some really great points about how 343 doesn't fix anything in favor of the two game types.
I wondered when someone was going to bring up rank, and try to make this about that, and an us against them attitude. This doesn't really add anything of substance to the debate. I am an SR149, Gold/Plat ranked player. Does my opinion weigh less than and SR150 Onyx/Champ? No matter what level that one plays at we are all using the same weapons. We have the same tools at our disposal, and thereby the same opportunity for success or failure with those tools.
I went ahead a played some BTB games last night. I will go ahead and play some Warzone today, but so far from my experience the weapons work well in the BTB setting. The lower RRR of the BR, just like it did during the tuning test, promoted more map movement and has helped turn the matches into less about cross map pinning down, who sees who first, and pretty much an overall positive in my opinion.
I tried watching Nas during the last time they added back 12 man teams, before now, I stopped watching and being interested in his opinion once him and his team started farming. They literally said to each other, "Don't take that base. Let them have it back so we can keep playing." I don't care how good a player might be. If they are bad sportsman, and in general just have a bad attitude I don't have much respect for that.