One of the commendations that takes the longest to achieve is the first strike commendation which you can't exactly farm as you need to play a lot!
I can guarantee you that if Spartan Companies didn't exist farming would still be prevalent.Probably so, my friend. However, that doesn't make the people on Whiskey's roster any less culpable.
Looking at this objectively based upon the lofty Spartan Company commendation standards that 343i established, is unlocking both pieces of the Achilles armor a noteworthy accomplishment? Yes, of course. Being the very first Spartan Company to do it is a remarkable feat.
On the other hand, wasn't this accomplished at a rather high price? Whiskey has been well-known for farming in pursuit of these commendations. When you triple-cap your opponents within the first few minutes of the game and ultimately have several Spartans within the enemy's core room without taking a single shot at the core itself until 16-18 minutes into the match, that is the epitome of "Unsporting Behavior" and deserves to be reported to Xbox Live accordingly.
So, is it really worth it to be able to yell "First" after repeated displaying overtly poor sportsmanship to that degree and essentially violating the Xbox Live Terms of Service? How many people had their Warzone experience completely ruined because of these childish antics? Taking it a step further, how many people stopped playing Warzone (and perhaps even Halo 5 itself) because they concluded that the matchmaking population is plagued with self-centered jerks? Personally, I know a few long-term Halo fans who had the misfortune to jump into Warzone and encounter blatant farming in their very first match. They immediately swore to never try that playlist again.
Are there some people on Whiskey's roster who didn't farm or directly support their teammates who did? Yes, no doubt. But based upon how quickly they unlocked Achilles, it is safe to say that the vast majority of them got their hands dirty. Yes, on the surface this is a tremendous accomplishment... but realistically, it is tainted.
If you look at the overall playtime of Whiskey compared to other Spartan Companies it's significantly higher they simply put in a hell of a lot of man hours.
The thing for me is that farming has been going on since previous Halo titles and Halo 3 had some of the worst cases I've ever seen were players could get 150 kills alone in BTB.
I think a lot of people on here don't truly understand the meaning of farming and spawn killing. They are two different things, but can overlap.
Anyone that has played Halo 1-3 knows what spawn killing is. Spawn and die. Take a step or two maybe. Think hang 'em high on Halo CE. Other team has map control and are good shots?
Farming is going after the same achievement over and over. Want that assasination armor in H4? Keep using camo and assassinating 5-10 people a game.
The grendande insta kill on urban is spawn killing and can be farming if you need nade kills.
What people typically are talking about is spawn killing, where they can't move and die moments after spawning.
Spawn killing does happen, but far less than everyone saying that Whiskey is always farming. We are the first to get the helmet as we completed the commendations and put in more time than nearly any other company (haven't compared everyone companies total time played). Putting in the time allows one to complete more commendations than others that put in less time. Simple.
If you're putting in time, you probably improve more than people that play less. You figure out which tactics work or don't, have good communication with your team, how to get commendations you need efficiently, etc.
Mostly what people are griping about is getting triple capped and not being able to get out of their home base without dying. That's superior teamwork, map control and often higher skill compared to the other team.
If you are spawning and dying that's spawn killing and unsportsmanship
If you can't get out of your base without dying and the other team is killing enemy bosses and killing you when you try to get out? That's not spawn killing or farming. It's not unsportsmanship like. That's superior game play.
Farming would be being in the base killing or having tanks or whatever outside aimed in and killing you and not touching the core.
As much as people like to make us the poster boy of killing the game and accuse us of that "farming" (aka not coring) that's not our MO. We have an easy to remember name, we were first to unlock Achilles and we have had members not core before (We got on their case to stop). So add it all up and we have a reputation for it. Cool, but it's not what we do or how we play.
You can say what you like but where's the game clips from when Achilles was announced till this past week showing a pattern of "farming"? You'd be hard pressed to find any pattern as again that's not what we do.
I've played with randoms and been in lobbies with other companies who "farm" hardcore. I don't often hear the actual serial offenders getting heat for their constant farming. Those are the real sweaty groups everyone hates. We play casually and go after commendations. We typically don't play sweaty or try hard unless matched up with a sweaty clans. It's farm or be farmed in those instances, sometimes stalemates. Sometimes we win, sometimes we don't.
I don't mind the bad rep. It's hard to build up a good rep and easy to destroy it. Everyone wants to hate on us, so be it. Just know when you get "farmed" make sure it's actually farming. And if it is farming check the names in the lobby and it's a 95% chance there aren't any whiskey in there and 100% chance it's not a full whiskey lobby.
Again not upset having a bad rap, just setting the record straight for what it's worth. Good day and see you guys around the halo universe!