You know because of you, I may put Reach a little higher on my list. I'm actually starting to miss the game for what it was worth.Ah yeah true. Wasn't one of the reasons they left to make Destiny was because they didn't like the way Microsoft bossed them about or something? I swear I remember hearing something like this but can't exactly remember, it's been a while.Remember they also have to adhere to MS time limits for releases.Could it have maybe been because of console limitations? I know that Halo 4 had console limitation problems so maybe Reach too?Halo Reach is one of those Halo games where we will never truly know what Bungie was planning at the time. It seems like they had so many ideas but wanted to keep it simple.Oh i remember the scarab rumours! That woul've been cool as long as it didn't feel too on the rails imo!I felt like the Map pack that contained Highlands was the best map. I still put hours into it because it was a Halo game and I'll stick to this series until the end. Another thing is I probably expected the game to be like the book which was not a good way to approach it. Reach the game and Reach the book are two totally different stories. Not only that we never got the true final mission. Which was supposed to be one more battle in space.Okay I see your points, whilst I don't agree with all of them I total understand where you're coming from so can see why you aren't as keen on Reach :) But yeah I think almost everyone loved Invasion at least, really wish they'd bring that back as with the engine nowadays they could make it so cinematic (as long as they don't sacrifice gameplay for visuals). And yeah anyone who voted for Invasion Slayer over regular Invasion, just why? :( I also quite like some of H3's map packs, but also I like (most) of Reach's maps as they work well for the gameplay it provides (but then that depends on whether you like the gameplay or not for if you like the maps right?). Some maps in Reach were an absolute pain I'll give you that for sure, but there were so many that I thought worked amazingly with the armour abilities! :)Gameplay wise, it felt slow and sluggish I get that we are Spartan IIIs in Mjolnir armor but it just felt awkward to play. Then the early mechanics like Bloom since to work fine for the DMR in concept but man...I hated that some people would spam at close range and still win. Then even though we are beating a dead horse Armor Lock was neded in the Beta when the grenades were nukes that shook the screen, but when the Jetpack Grenade combo got fixed it wasn't really needed. A lot of the maps were close range and the EMP and Grenade shedding were a bit too much. Not to mention it ruined vehicle play for splatters. The only thing I truly liked about Reach gameplay wise was Invasion. I didn't like Invasion Slayer but like Invasion especially Breakpoint. But that's about it. Arena was boring and even though it had the most objective gametypes no one seemed to play them. Forge world wasn't that bad either but man...that lack of colors and effects made it pretty bland. Let's not even get started on the campaign maps being multiplayer maps that was just lazy. People can make fun of H3's map packs but it wasn't that bad.No, division creates a healthy debate. The community of Battlefield became pretty divided about Battlefield 1 compared to Battlefield 4. People now discuss the aspects that make both great. Yes, some people s**t on one or the other but those people were already arseholes and were always going to take issue with these things. You can still have fun by yourself or with your friends on whichever Halo game you choose, and it is not affected by a bunch of other people whining about a game you love. Take for example the new star wars film, The Last Jedi. Some people hate it. I personally love it (I understand it has flaws but what star wars film doesn't?) but my enjoyment isn't ruined because a bunch of other people hate it.Nah, the first few weeks of the game not fun. I didn't remotely enjoy the game until the Highlands map. Ironically this is my favorite map in any Halo game because of the scenery in the background of the Highland Mountains being glassed. And no, dividing a community is actually a really big deal. People may crap on Halo 4 because of Multiplayer and crap on Halo 5's story but we can discuss Reach starting that divide. If you want to go even further we can even go to Halo 2's origin.But in terms of how much fun you had with reach would you still put it so low? Causing a divide in the community isn't a bad thing usually, it offers up more talking points. You're just more likely to see the outspoken arseholes once people differ on their opinions of a game.
2. Halo 1
3. Halo 2
4. Halo Wars 2
5. Halo Wars 1
6. Halo 4
7. Halo 5
8. Halo Spartan Strike
9. Halo Spartan Assault
10. Halo: Reach
If you want to know why Reach is so low, you probably weren't on the original forums when the game came out. This game is what started that huge split in the Halo Community at least after awhile I had fun with Halo 4 and 5. Reach, those days were just over just memories of people constantly leaving and quitting and friends giving up on the franchise.
I do understand where you're coming from, but in terms of how a game plays and how much you enjoy it for all its different aspects it is kind of a void argument to make. If you legitimately don't like the game that is fine, as that is personal preference. Saying it is the worse because not everyone you knew liked it is just a bit ludicrous, I must say.
Therefore as I say this, I must look back at your reply. You first say "the first few weeks of the game not fun", then continue to say you didn't remotely enjoy it until Highlands came out. So which is it, didn't enjoy the first few weeks or not at all (anything about the game) until highlands? Just want clarification, as if it is the latter it means you're saying you didn't enjoy (or maybe even appreciate?) and aspects of Reach until 1 map came out, assuming that you then only continued to play (and enjoy) Reach by repeatedly playing this map over and over.
And yes whilst it may look like I've tried to call you out on how you worded your reply, you're right. But what I'm mainly trying to do is make you question whether you think Reach really is that bad just because of it dividing the community.
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