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Hey Everyone,

In case you haven't seen it already - Ske7ch posted an update today over here with his 4th MCC Development Update blog. You can read the full content as to how and why these playlists are being chosen, but we would love to hear even more feedback.

This is your time to leave critical feedback on this list. An example would be, "Hey Postums, I can' help but notice this playlist X is missing? I would really like to have X because of reason." If you don't like a decision that is made, please be vocal about it. But, please be vocal in a constructive way. Telling us what you like/dislike and why are great things we can act on.

Note: We are including 2 rotational playlists for now which will bet the Big Team Battle (which will rotate through the various games in MCC) and Social Arenas across the H2/H2A/H3 areas. These playlists will rotate in and out with various specialty playlists over time.

Halo CE
  • Ranked 2v2
  • Social 4v4
Halo 2
  • Ranked Team Hardcore
  • Social 4v4
Halo 2: Anniversary
  • Ranked 4v4
Halo 3
  • Ranked Team Hardcore
  • Social 4v4
  • Social Big Team Battle
Halo 4
  • Social 4v4
If you have a strong opinion about a playlist you feel needs to be a permanent one, please feel free to tell us here.

Cheers,
Postums
I do think Halo 2 and Halo 3 Swat should get a playlist and each game should have a separate Slayer playlist. They are great for headshot practice and they go by quickly if I am short of time. I'm also not keen on having to rotate the BTB playlist as sometimes I would like to not play specific games in BTB, in addition since there are only two or three of them would H2A's BTB maps be included with Halo 2's BTB turn?

EDIT: This also does not bode well for map variety.
Hey I just wanted to start off by saying I can't wait for this update. Reading the update is making me more and more excited for the new MCC. I really like how you chose to keep Team Hardcore ranked (being it's my favorite playlist) and how you separated it between halo 3 and halo 2 to avoid dodging. I think team snipers is a MUST though (preferably ranked) and should be added for sure. I also think BTB should be available for halo 1 and halo 2 as well considering all of the people that have asked for it. Keep up the great work guys!!!!
Hardcore shouldn't be the only thing that is ranked. I will have a better post on this later but this just doesn't sound like a good line up.
I just wanted to say I'm stoked for this update. Long time fan of Halo 1 and Halo 2.

Great to see the ranked H1 2v2 PLUS social 4v4... I've missed the 4v4 H1 in the playlists.

It will also be great to see Team Hardcore get a separate playlist for Halo 2. The Current MLG playlist never gets H2 selected with H3 being an option.

Great job on the playlists!

It would be nice to see a Halo 1 & 2 BTB exclusive playlist too.
The biggest advantage the MCC has is the insane variety it can offer. I understand the need for only nine playlists, so if that's what we're going to have, we need every one of them to offer something different and unique. The current lineup does not offer this.

We do not need playlists that double up on maps and modes. Having two playlists the offer similar maps and settings with the only difference being if it's ranked or not, isn't good enough. We do not need ranked 4v4 Halo 3 and social 4v4 Halo 3. Just have a single playlist that offers all maps and modes for 4v4 (like how it is currently). This means each title will not have a split in playerbase between two playlists. It also means 5 of the playlists will be dedicated to each title in 4v4, leaving 4 specialised playlists rather than two (BTB, Action Sack, Infection, Swat, etc).

Please don't double up on playlists. Give us a single 4v4 playlist for each of the 5 multiplayer offerings and allow the other four playlists for all the other modes the MCC has to offer.
Halo 3 should have more playlist by far that is the biggest community on mcc.

Ranked Team doubles
Ranked Team Slayer
Ranked Team hardcore
Social slayer 5v5 just like the original.

The other playlist are fine that you guys chose for the other halos but halo 3 has a decent population i am sure more halo 3 guys will speak up on this. I have agreed with everything that you guys have done so far but the playlist line up is just bland and not much variety.
Why no H2A social playlist? Is it a lack of maps for 4v4? I'd like to see a social one so more casual players can enjoy a classic halo on the gorgeous look. Those maps are incredibly fun but it can often be difficult playing ranked playlists without a team, shutting out a lot of people from playing H2A.
Halo 3 should have more playlist by far that is the biggest community on mcc.

Ranked Team doubles
Ranked Team Slayer
Ranked Team hardcore
Social slayer 5v5 just like the original.

The other playlist are fine that you guys chose for the other halos but halo 3 has a decent population i am sure more halo 3 guys will speak up on this. I have agreed with everything that you guys have done so far but the playlist line up is just bland and not much variety.
If you want variety, why are you asking for almost half the playlists to cater to only a single game? These playlists you listed will feature almost entirely the same maps and modes with little variation. That's the opposite of what we need.
Halo CE
  • Ranked 2v2
  • Social 4v4
  • Social Big Team Battle
Halo 2
  • Ranked Team Hardcore
  • Social 4v4
  • Social Big Team Battle
Halo 2: Anniversary
  • Ranked 4v4Social 4v4
  • Social Big Team Battle
Halo 3
  • Ranked Team Hardcore
  • Social 4v4
  • Social Big Team Battle
Halo 4
  • Social 4v4
  • Social Big Team Battle
Crossplay
  • Team Action Sack
  • Infection
It's more than 9 obviously, but why limit one's self? If you're gonna make a game centered around four, you may as well go all in and simply weed out unpopular playlists over going the Halo 5 launch route with too little. And big issue, why are three games, Halo 2: Anniversary, Halo 4, and CE not having a BTB playlist that's standard? On Halo 4, the least popular Halo on the 360, BTB is STILL the most popular playlist to play in front of Slayer. Not to mention, you're basically cutting out and rarely using a gigantic part of MCC's map pool, including PC ported maps or even DLC, which many don't experience. I don't experience Remnant or Bloodline at all, but an H2A centric playlist would not only solve that, but stop H2A specific achievements from being a crapshoot. BTB is social to many people. And it's kinda sucky it won't be, or isn't planned to be a standard thing for each game. And why is there no H2A social? I love the game and don't want to sweat 24/7.

Basically, add in BTB for every game and add a crossplay subsection for proper rotationals/action sack things. SWAT, Snipers and Grifball don't need to be their own playlists. Make them part of Action Sack or something like it, ala Halo 3. Cut down on lists and put more important stuff at the forefront.
I'm perfectly fine with there being game-specific playlists, but I feel removing multigame playlists would be a misstep. A large draw of MCC for me is the ability to go to a single playlist and randomly get a map from all across the franchise to play on. That goes a long way in making things feel fresh and diverse. In addition, I'd rather BTB stay multigame, otherwise with the proposed setup, I'd imagine fatigue would set in fairly quickly with you only having the option to play one game for a whole month at a time.
Team Doubles and Team Slayer 4v4 Ranked for Halo 3 please.

I play these playlists & stream, alongside H3 Hardcore.
Basically, add in BTB for every game and add a crossplay subsection for proper rotationals/action sack things. SWAT, Snipers and Grifball don't need to be their own playlists. Make them part of Action Sack or something like it, ala Halo 3. Cut down on lists and put more important stuff at the forefront.
BTB is planned as a rotational playlist. So one month (weeks?) it will be Halo 3, then shift to Halo 4, and so on.
I like the idea of playlists being separate, as I alway thought that would be the best ways for players to get into games faster and less quitting. I think that a team doubles should be added for H2 and H3, as well as a TS H3 Ranked which is one of the more played playlists currently in MCC. Additionally, a big team battle for each separate game. From my understanding H3 has the largest pop with H2 at close second.
Seems fair to start off with the playlists listed above. Remember everyone 343 is still getting feedback on here so post your suggestions on here. We have to remember one thing I have a huge feeling once the flights are done the MCC will more then likely be added to Gamepass. I would go all in on that bet if I was in Vegas right now. If I had to suggest one thing for the pipeline though is give Halo CE and Halo 2 its own BTB playlist or throw them together in a Classic BTB playlist. If there's two groups of players that can get along it's definitely those two.
I do think Halo 2 and Halo 3 Swat should get a playlist and each game should have a separate Slayer playlist. They are great for headshot practice and they go by quickly if I am short of time. I'm also not keen on having to rotate the BTB playlist as sometimes I would like to not play specific games in BTB, in addition since there are only two or three of them would H2A's BTB maps be included with Halo 2's BTB turn?

EDIT: This also does not bode well for map variety and I also noticed there is no H2A playlist...?
Halo 2: Anniversary
  • Ranked 4v4
KayMrt wrote:
Basically, add in BTB for every game and add a crossplay subsection for proper rotationals/action sack things. SWAT, Snipers and Grifball don't need to be their own playlists. Make them part of Action Sack or something like it, ala Halo 3. Cut down on lists and put more important stuff at the forefront.
BTB is planned as a rotational playlist. So one month (weeks?) it will be Halo 3, then shift to Halo 4, and so on.
Yeah, and that's still dumb. It counts on proper rotation time, which we have no reason to believe will be an honored thing, given Halo 5 was slated to have weekly rotationals, and also still completely goes over how a small amount of playlists sucks compared to too many. You can at least hook in a lot of players and remove the fat over time with too many. You can't hook in players who weren't pleased in the first place, again. And again, BTB is generally popular across all Halos, Halo 4 being a beacon, due to its social nature.

I'm not trying to convince you, but making a popular staple of Halo (As much as I don't like it) a rotational for most games barring one, and putting it on the backburner in favor of a generally vanilla playlist set is bad.
I can see what 343 is going for, each game getting a few playlist. But why Halo 3 only 1 ranked playlist. Why does Halo 4 have no ranked playlist, Why does H2A only have ranked 4v4, why does H2C only have 1 ranked. I feel like at least two ranked playlist per game or something. I feel like we need more variety. I don't know man i just feel wrong about all of this. Will make another post later with more stuff i wanna say.
Postums wrote:
I do think Halo 2 and Halo 3 Swat should get a playlist and each game should have a separate Slayer playlist. They are great for headshot practice and they go by quickly if I am short of time. I'm also not keen on having to rotate the BTB playlist as sometimes I would like to not play specific games in BTB, in addition since there are only two or three of them would H2A's BTB maps be included with Halo 2's BTB turn?

EDIT: This also does not bode well for map variety and I also noticed there is no H2A playlist...?
Halo 2: Anniversary
  • Ranked 4v4
My bad, I completely missed it. Still though, what of maps like Bloodline?
If you're going to make any playlist ranked in H3 I would not suggest Hardcore. That alienates a large portion of the community that plays H3, and it has a very small population. Making Team Slayer ranked appeals to a larger range of players. Not to mention it offers a myriad of maps if Sandbox, and all of the slayer map variants are added.
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