Can we get Swat as a RANKED playlist please !
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In all my time playing CE - both on XBC and LAN parties- I've never encountered 4v4 games to 100.. I can understand the argument for it and would even be down to play some games like that, but no way can it fit on an unranked Halo CE playlist.II AdamanT II wrote:I see a lot of complaining about the updated 4v4 CE settings, but honestly they seemed to be aimed at the wrong issue. The settings in a 4v4 match are perfectly reasonable for game length, the actual issue lies in the rampant quitting which will hopefully be addressed through quit penalties in the near future.DeMeNtEd0nE wrote:Halo 1 4v4 Team Arena Playlist is broken!!!
With the quitting epidemic being so bad, raising the kill count to 100, raising ball and koth to 5 min, and flag caps to 5 makes most games drag.Most games u have to quit out of just so u dont have to play a 4v1 or 4v2 and wait 20 minutes for the game to end.
And what's with the weird starting weapon spawns on some maps now?
The above being said, I do recall reading (though have not playtested) that oddball respawn times are 5 seconds. This would admittedly make it difficult for one team to properly set-up and control the ball for 5 minutes. Hopefully this feedback is being addressed and we will see 10 second respawns for all objective gametypes.
I think it could be ranked but also go off a more modern mmr system like most big games today. Instead of starting at level 1, players could start at 2000 mmr. When they win they go up in mmr, when the lose they go down. This would make it so the noobs drop to around 500 mmr and match up against other noobs that are around 500 mmr and have great games. Pros would climb to 4k and 5k mmr and match other 4k and 5k players. Mid skill players would hover around 2k and pretty good players would be around 3k. The level system is out dated as it was made a long time ago by bungie when Halo 2 came out. There is a lot of things that could make this game way better. Throw out the levels. Fortnite only has levels because it is a game where you earn exp each match regardless of win or loss.I J Lew I wrote:In all my time playing CE - both on XBC and LAN parties- I've never encountered 4v4 games to 100.. I can understand the argument for it and would even be down to play some games like that, but no way can it fit on an unranked Halo CE playlist.II AdamanT II wrote:DeMeNtEd0nE wrote:
I think the main issue here is players who are familiar with the title, but have no real experience with it, have two options.. They play ranked 2v2 or they play unranked 4v4 with a larger team. I think it's clear which one they pick. They get in a game and probably quickly realize they are getting smoked... most likely just spawned killed, since that's part of the CE game/strategy.
So what's left to do?
They quit, and for honestly a good reason, they bring nothing to the game and are having a bad time..That just leaves the other players who actually know what they're doing playing a 4v3 or 4v2 or 3v2 or whatever. Not fun for them either now. They have to grueling search and destroy the other team till they can get to 100; or play shadow games with the one kid left who has something to prove (#ThatsBeenMe).
So is the ban hammer really the answer?
Or should we look to creating an environment where our players want to stay?
I truly believe 4v4 needs to be ranked. If your new to CE you then can have two options, vote for it in social slayer, or play at your level in 4v4, 2v2 ranked.
That's the only way I see 4v4 CE actually being fixed and not just thrown away.
It seems that every playlist has its issues with quitters and over-matched teams. I enjoy the social aspect of the unranked games, but a ranked playlist would allow one to eventually rank up high enough so that less people quit out. I'm still pushing for a team playlist that you can only enter solo - for Halo CE through Halo 4. Not everyone has a group of buddies they play with on a regular basis. Would be nice to know that both teams consist completely of randoms.SnapJaws wrote:I'm not trying to keep posting this but I haven't had a good team arena match for Halo CE the last 2 days. It is so plagued by leavers and unbalanced matches. Literally just stopped playing because I'm over it. Please not only add the penalty for leaving but also add a mercy rule/forfeit option that can stop a match early. I don't enjoy spending 10 minutes to lose or to win a game that is either completely 1 sided or has a bunch of leavers. I know I've posted something similar to this a couple times so I won't post it again to avoid spamming the feedback. Making it ranked would also help with the balancing part. The mercy/forfeit rule could apply to 2vs2 and 4vs4 and all Halo games. Playing a 2vs2 to 50 when the other team scores 12 is not fun. Please consider.
Just out of curiosity, why do you feel that Swat has to be ranked? I understand that people want it to be a permanent playlists so they can play it at any time; but I've always been under the impression that people who play Swat aren't looking for a sweaty/competitive experience. Similar to the people that primarily play things like Grifball, Big Team Battle, Action Sack, Multi-Team, etc.SOJ MeThoDx wrote:Can we get Swat as a RANKED playlist please !
As an Asian player, I feel the same. Still having trouble finding matches after the update.Official Tank wrote:im a player from the uk and i struggle so hard to find games in any other mode but social slayer. alot of uk players are complaining that they cannot find games, can this be fixed? im a dedicated halo fan and i feel like the us is being favoured.
Agreed - except why get rid of hardcore? Seems like you are a competitive player, so why get rid of the most competitive settings?II Sideshot II wrote:I am level 35 in Halo 2 Classic Arena, it is getting unbelieveibly hard to find a game sitting for almost 1 hour with no matches. You guys need to get rid of the hardcore playlist, and some social playlist. Let teams of 3 and 4 match single players. Widen the match gap to 15 levels above and below. We need more people in ranked playlist. We dont need all theese social playlist. If you want to play socialy you can create your own custom games. You guys need to help getting matches in ranked playlist easier. This is rediculous!