[Locked] Spawn Camping...Legitimate or No?

ronnie42 wrote:

thewholecity wrote:

I've never been a fan of spawn camping, but want to keep an open mind. The other day, I was in a BTB one flag CTF and the other team had SIX people quit. We defended the flag easily and then captured it on our first round of offense. When I picked up the flag and went to capture it in the second round, a teammate betrayed me, picked up the flag, and continued to drop/pick it up. While he did so, he and other teammates spawn camped the last two guys on the other squad. I just wanted to end it ASAP so these players, who stuck it out for us, could go on their way.

Was this a legitimate play on my team's part? Or do you consider it unsportsmanlike behavior?

If players are cheating via 'spawn' trapping just report the players and you can even use the Halo support page and upload proof. It's technically unsportsmanlike behaviour regardless if some gamers try to rationalise cheating. Besides reporting players there's not much else that can be done.

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

thewholecity wrote:

I've never been a fan of spawn camping, but want to keep an open mind. The other day, I was in a BTB one flag CTF and the other team had SIX people quit. We defended the flag easily and then captured it on our first round of offense. When I picked up the flag and went to capture it in the second round, a teammate betrayed me, picked up the flag, and continued to drop/pick it up. While he did so, he and other teammates spawn camped the last two guys on the other squad. I just wanted to end it ASAP so these players, who stuck it out for us, could go on their way.

Was this a legitimate play on my team's part? Or do you consider it unsportsmanlike behavior?

If players are cheating via 'spawn' trapping just report the players and you can even use the Halo support page and upload proof. It's technically unsportsmanlike behaviour regardless if some gamers try to rationalise cheating. Besides reporting players there's not much else that can be done.

It’s not a bannable offense. It’s not ddosing or hacking or using mods. Spawn killing has been a thing in every fps game. Some may not like it but it’s been a thing forever. If you want to keep a team of your flag you spawn trap em til
the timer runs out. You want to keep the team of their own bomb so they cannot plant it spawn trap em. It’s legitimate, why would you purposely let the other team near your base or grab their bomb that’s not smart

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

thewholecity wrote:

I've never been a fan of spawn camping, but want to keep an open mind. The other day, I was in a BTB one flag CTF and the other team had SIX people quit. We defended the flag easily and then captured it on our first round of offense. When I picked up the flag and went to capture it in the second round, a teammate betrayed me, picked up the flag, and continued to drop/pick it up. While he did so, he and other teammates spawn camped the last two guys on the other squad. I just wanted to end it ASAP so these players, who stuck it out for us, could go on their way.

Was this a legitimate play on my team's part? Or do you consider it unsportsmanlike behavior?

If players are cheating via 'spawn' trapping just report the players and you can even use the Halo support page and upload proof. It's technically unsportsmanlike behaviour regardless if some gamers try to rationalise cheating. Besides reporting players there's not much else that can be done.

It’s not a bannable offense. It’s not ddosing or hacking or using mods. Spawn killing has been a thing in every fps game. Some may not like it but it’s been a thing forever. If you want to keep a team of your flag you spawn trap em til
the timer runs out. You want to keep the team of their own bomb so they cannot plant it spawn trap em. It’s legitimate, why would you purposely let the other team near your base or grab their bomb that’s not smart

I'm not interested in players trying to rationalise cheating. Cheating is still cheating regardless of if 343i decides to act on them. Calling it 'legit' doesn't make it any less cheating no matter how many times you try to tell others. It's not ok. There are plenty of ways to keep the 'flag' without resorting to cheating. It's technically 'unsporting' and is there in the report function for a reason. If I see people doing it in-game then they will be reported.

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

thewholecity wrote:

I've never been a fan of spawn camping, but want to keep an open mind. The other day, I was in a BTB one flag CTF and the other team had SIX people quit. We defended the flag easily and then captured it on our first round of offense. When I picked up the flag and went to capture it in the second round, a teammate betrayed me, picked up the flag, and continued to drop/pick it up. While he did so, he and other teammates spawn camped the last two guys on the other squad. I just wanted to end it ASAP so these players, who stuck it out for us, could go on their way.

Was this a legitimate play on my team's part? Or do you consider it unsportsmanlike behavior?

If players are cheating via 'spawn' trapping just report the players and you can even use the Halo support page and upload proof. It's technically unsportsmanlike behaviour regardless if some gamers try to rationalise cheating. Besides reporting players there's not much else that can be done.

It’s not a bannable offense. It’s not ddosing or hacking or using mods. Spawn killing has been a thing in every fps game. Some may not like it but it’s been a thing forever. If you want to keep a team of your flag you spawn trap em til
the timer runs out. You want to keep the team of their own bomb so they cannot plant it spawn trap em. It’s legitimate, why would you purposely let the other team near your base or grab their bomb that’s not smart

I'm not interested in players trying to rationalise cheating. Cheating is still cheating regardless of if 343i decides to act on them. Calling it 'legit' doesn't make it any less cheating no matter how many times you try to tell others. It's not ok. There are plenty of ways to keep the 'flag' without resorting to cheating. It's technically 'unsporting' and is there in the report function for a reason. If I see people doing it in-game then they will be reported.

Lol what’s next coordination is cheating? Bruh why would you want to let the other team bear the obj if the goal is to keep them away

Like I said I'm not interested in players trying to rationalise cheating and you know full well that spawn camping is cheating and it has 'nothing' to do with objectives...this is about gamers on purpose exploiting the game to gain an advantage aka cheating. You can try to rationalise it all you want...I will always give the same answer and players doing it will be reported.

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

thewholecity wrote:

I've never been a fan of spawn camping, but want to keep an open mind. The other day, I was in a BTB one flag CTF and the other team had SIX people quit. We defended the flag easily and then captured it on our first round of offense. When I picked up the flag and went to capture it in the second round, a teammate betrayed me, picked up the flag, and continued to drop/pick it up. While he did so, he and other teammates spawn camped the last two guys on the other squad. I just wanted to end it ASAP so these players, who stuck it out for us, could go on their way.

Was this a legitimate play on my team's part? Or do you consider it unsportsmanlike behavior?

If players are cheating via 'spawn' trapping just report the players and you can even use the Halo support page and upload proof. It's technically unsportsmanlike behaviour regardless if some gamers try to rationalise cheating. Besides reporting players there's not much else that can be done.

It’s not a bannable offense. It’s not ddosing or hacking or using mods. Spawn killing has been a thing in every fps game. Some may not like it but it’s been a thing forever. If you want to keep a team of your flag you spawn trap em til
the timer runs out. You want to keep the team of their own bomb so they cannot plant it spawn trap em. It’s legitimate, why would you purposely let the other team near your base or grab their bomb that’s not smart

I'm not interested in players trying to rationalise cheating. Cheating is still cheating regardless of if 343i decides to act on them. Calling it 'legit' doesn't make it any less cheating no matter how many times you try to tell others. It's not ok. There are plenty of ways to keep the 'flag' without resorting to cheating. It's technically 'unsporting' and is there in the report function for a reason. If I see people doing it in-game then they will be reported.

Lol what’s next coordination is cheating? Bruh why would you want to let the other team bear the obj if the goal is to keep them away

Like I said I'm not interested in players trying to rationalise cheating and you know full well that spawn camping is cheating and it has 'nothing' to do with objectives...this is about gamers on purpose exploiting the game to gain an advantage aka cheating. You can try to rationalise it all you want...I will always give the same answer and players doing it will be reported.

ronnie42 wrote:

LethalQ wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

thewholecity wrote:

I've never been a fan of spawn camping, but want to keep an open mind. The other day, I was in a BTB one flag CTF and the other team had SIX people quit. We defended the flag easily and then captured it on our first round of offense. When I picked up the flag and went to capture it in the second round, a teammate betrayed me, picked up the flag, and continued to drop/pick it up. While he did so, he and other teammates spawn camped the last two guys on the other squad. I just wanted to end it ASAP so these players, who stuck it out for us, could go on their way.

Was this a legitimate play on my team's part? Or do you consider it unsportsmanlike behavior?

If players are cheating via 'spawn' trapping just report the players and you can even use the Halo support page and upload proof. It's technically unsportsmanlike behaviour regardless if some gamers try to rationalise cheating. Besides reporting players there's not much else that can be done.

It’s not a bannable offense. It’s not ddosing or hacking or using mods. Spawn killing has been a thing in every fps game. Some may not like it but it’s been a thing forever. If you want to keep a team of your flag you spawn trap em til
the timer runs out. You want to keep the team of their own bomb so they cannot plant it spawn trap em. It’s legitimate, why would you purposely let the other team near your base or grab their bomb that’s not smart

I'm not interested in players trying to rationalise cheating. Cheating is still cheating regardless of if 343i decides to act on them. Calling it 'legit' doesn't make it any less cheating no matter how many times you try to tell others. It's not ok. There are plenty of ways to keep the 'flag' without resorting to cheating. It's technically 'unsporting' and is there in the report function for a reason. If I see people doing it in-game then they will be reported.

Killing players right when they spawn is not cheating. That is playing the game as it is designed. As long as players aren't using some sort of hack to do stuff in the game that isn't designed that way isn't cheating. Spawn killing as always been a thing. But it becomes "un-sportsmanlike" in an objective based game were your team can clearly win a game but won't just so you can rack up kills. Which is one reason why I hardly ever play or even want to play, any objective based game type. Objective usually turns into a long slayer match because most seem to want to just slay. I see it in FFA quite often... Players with zero hill time or zero ball time but end up with like 30 or 40 kills because they just avoided the objected and sat back and slayed all game.

Stopping players from being able to play the entire game with no way to avoid is cheating. Designs flaws are an exploit....that players are clearly taking advantage of. Just like 343i have frowned upon Griffball farm killing. Just because something can be done does not mean it's not cheating. Just like when 'ranked professionals' glitch out of maps due to map flaws and they get banned in tournaments. Getting a few accidentally spawn kills is 1 thing but farming spawn kills so the team can't do anything the entire game is to be blunt 'cheating' no matter how you try to rationalise since that's using a games design exploit to gain an advantage. Like I've said multiple times...if I see it happen I will report it and move on. Why some people are trying to rationalise game exploits makes no sense.

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

LethalQ wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

Genesissucks489 wrote:

ronnie42 wrote:

thewholecity wrote:

I've never been a fan of spawn camping, but want to keep an open mind. The other day, I was in a BTB one flag CTF and the other team had SIX people quit. We defended the flag easily and then captured it on our first round of offense. When I picked up the flag and went to capture it in the second round, a teammate betrayed me, picked up the flag, and continued to drop/pick it up. While he did so, he and other teammates spawn camped the last two guys on the other squad. I just wanted to end it ASAP so these players, who stuck it out for us, could go on their way.

Was this a legitimate play on my team's part? Or do you consider it unsportsmanlike behavior?

If players are cheating via 'spawn' trapping just report the players and you can even use the Halo support page and upload proof. It's technically unsportsmanlike behaviour regardless if some gamers try to rationalise cheating. Besides reporting players there's not much else that can be done.

It’s not a bannable offense. It’s not ddosing or hacking or using mods. Spawn killing has been a thing in every fps game. Some may not like it but it’s been a thing forever. If you want to keep a team of your flag you spawn trap em til
the timer runs out. You want to keep the team of their own bomb so they cannot plant it spawn trap em. It’s legitimate, why would you purposely let the other team near your base or grab their bomb that’s not smart

I'm not interested in players trying to rationalise cheating. Cheating is still cheating regardless of if 343i decides to act on them. Calling it 'legit' doesn't make it any less cheating no matter how many times you try to tell others. It's not ok. There are plenty of ways to keep the 'flag' without resorting to cheating. It's technically 'unsporting' and is there in the report function for a reason. If I see people doing it in-game then they will be reported.

Glitching out of maps is different than spawn killing. That’s glitching

Glitching out of maps to avoid being killed and spawn killing are both exploits...