And a random system would give them something random. Most people really only care about a handful of late tier items. If people want just lots of items for their spartans, well good news! You'd get the exact same amount of items as you would if it were static.
What you're talking about at that point is that maybe they want a low tier item that happens to be at level 5 of 100 and they might end up getting a the wrong low tier item at level 84 of 100. Well the actual difference between items like that is random between those spots anyway and of this extreme niche of people, half of them are happy they got the level 84 filler instead of the level 5 filler because of all the filler items half of them prefer the other one. Either way, that only further reinforces the fact that players should be able to choose the item or choose the box at each level. More proof my half hearted sytem is better than 343's.
What's wrong with this situation is that I already overcame the barrier YEARS AGO. Now be honest, would you be upset if at the start of June they locked all your unlocks again and changed the system even if they made it a little easier nerxt go round? OK then.
People like to unlock things, sure. And yes, everyone has some amount of vanity to them. That's also true. However the people that are going to complain and fight over this demand for status instead of earned boxes because they don't want others to have it from a fair loot box are beyond the pale. It's a cosmetic item not a badge of honor. If they want a badge so they feel special give them a separate badge. That's what the banners were for anyway.
OK well if there's a correlation then you're wrong. Flat-out wrong.
If you were to actually compromise, you would have agreed to the system I proposed earlier without qualifiers as that was a perfectly fair 50/50 split. And you couldn't agree to it, so don't pretend you're taking the high road. You want to just make sure I can't get the things I already earned earlier any faster than you can now so that you can feel good about being "special" rather than just liking the item for what it is like myself.
Big oofs on that one, bud.
What you're talking about at that point is that maybe they want a low tier item that happens to be at level 5 of 100 and they might end up getting a the wrong low tier item at level 84 of 100. Well the actual difference between items like that is random between those spots anyway and of this extreme niche of people, half of them are happy they got the level 84 filler instead of the level 5 filler because of all the filler items half of them prefer the other one. Either way, that only further reinforces the fact that players should be able to choose the item or choose the box at each level. More proof my half hearted sytem is better than 343's.
Why do I constantly have to repeat myself to you? The problem with that is that it had long been established as a point of ego and then suddenly got ripped to take away that ego stroke hence why people got upset. The people who genuinely liked the Helioskrill for aesthetic reasons rather than status reasons were upset that they busted their backside only for 343 to troll them by saying 'We could have done this at any time but decided to ultimately make you suffer for nothing lawlz.'Quote:See Helioskrill.
What's wrong with this situation is that I already overcame the barrier YEARS AGO. Now be honest, would you be upset if at the start of June they locked all your unlocks again and changed the system even if they made it a little easier nerxt go round? OK then.
People like to unlock things, sure. And yes, everyone has some amount of vanity to them. That's also true. However the people that are going to complain and fight over this demand for status instead of earned boxes because they don't want others to have it from a fair loot box are beyond the pale. It's a cosmetic item not a badge of honor. If they want a badge so they feel special give them a separate badge. That's what the banners were for anyway.
Well unless they were watching them in person unlocking it they wouldn't know what level they got it, so what you're talking about is paranoia. And on the flip side, in a static pass, if one sees someone else at a much higher level than them, they very likely think less of that person bc they assume they have no life job or responsibility and just live in their mother's basement playing Halo all day. And unless he goes 30-0 people are also going to have that attitude reinforced with the addendum that he's trash. So really you've traded paranoia for hostility.Quote:I guarantee people would be LESS motivated
REALLY? OK, under everything that has been said here,if you don't gain a level, how many boxes are you going to open? What if you gain 5 levels? 10? Is there a direct correlation?Quote:Loot boxes are exactly that. Giving stuff out,
OK well if there's a correlation then you're wrong. Flat-out wrong.
Where it sits dead and unusable by virtue that this version killed it. Again, if you would be upset if come June all your unlocks were reset and you had to start from scratch again. Would you?Quote:It's still in OG Reach.
So then once again letting people choose each level whether they want the item or the box and share the same identical loot pool is superior in all ways except for narcissists.Quote:Once again If I want something from tier 30, I have NO IDEA when I would get it in a loot box system. That's just terrible. There's a good chance I won't get it until much later than I should..
No need to apologize to me at this point. I'm well aware you don't understand the terms and topics we're talking about. Give them badges. Don't lock the good cosmetics behind timewasting. You're not talking about skill (which is a big reason why your real world argument falls apart unless you're bragging about incompetence in management), you're talking about time wasted grinding. You're not talking about reserving items specifically for people who put up a 5 KD ratio and had more sniper headshots than deaths per match. At the very least that is an accomplish worth recognition. There's proof of skill there. What you're talking about is rewarding a select group of ne'erdowells for not having jobs.Quote:Nope sorry. Putting up rewards for specific objectives isn't narcissistic or elitist. It's actually how most games work and most of the world works.
I'm entitled for wanting the things that I already earned at ten times the grind that were effectively taken away from me? That makes me entitled? OK, I hope they reset and relock everything at the beginning of June. If you don't agree you will sound entitled as well. Also, you sound entitled if loot box only option bothers you that much too. Just play the game you'll get them.Quote:This makes you sound kinda entitled. Just play the game, you'll get them.
No you didn't. You saw a good idea that took zero effort and tried to mutate it into a different version of ego-stroking narcissism.Quote:I tried to compromise with you
If you were to actually compromise, you would have agreed to the system I proposed earlier without qualifiers as that was a perfectly fair 50/50 split. And you couldn't agree to it, so don't pretend you're taking the high road. You want to just make sure I can't get the things I already earned earlier any faster than you can now so that you can feel good about being "special" rather than just liking the item for what it is like myself.
lol well hate to break it to ya, but "as a whole" just totally negates any merit to the words that preceded it. We're not talking about as a whole, in the entirety of the universe and its history. We're talking about this very specific instance based on the systems stated, the one where you gave up and said, "Well you're objectively right but feelings!" That is the only RNG v. linearity up for debate here.Quote:RNG is never better than linear unlocks, as a whole.
Those were created specifically fill that gap for ego stroking and recognition. That's why they existed in the first place. Those are the exact reason cosmetics shouldn't be locked at all much less in a linear no life battle pass. You just slaughtered your own argument.Quote:Nameplates, Emblems, should these all just be randomly given out too?
Big oofs on that one, bud.