[Locked] Will You Buy Halo 5 with this lvl of Transparency?

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why not?

Scorpulus wrote:

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why not?

You can't be serious.

DaxSeven09 wrote:

DSight wrote:

CAMMofTHRONES wrote:

Repete1779 wrote:

On release, NO.

Maybe after a month or 2 when some of my friends can confirm whether or not the title is worth it. Can't trust review sites cause they all gave MCC great scores even though it still has issues after 6 months. And can't really listen to these forums either cause some have been pleased with MCC for months even though some of them admit there are issues.

Can't tell if that's just blind loyalty to 343, or employee of 343, or whatever. Plenty of other games will be coming out around the same time, no need to waste my time testing 343's product again.

I should have clarified in my above post that I wont be buying this AT LAUNCH. I will do like you and keep an eye on the community feedback and forums to see how well the game is working. If BTB is at least 16 players with ranked and actually "working" then I might consider getting it. But it sure will not be at launch.

I loved Halo 4 and developed a lot of respect for 343 with that game. But clearly MS and 343 are having major issues with the X1. Dedicated servers were supposed to be with every X1 game and that's clearly a massive struggle. The H5 beta had many similar problems as TMCC. On top of that we still never received a BTB beta for H5. So at this point no one knows if that is even going to work properly in H5. BTB is still only 14 players in TMCC and is still not ranked......6 months later.

There is a bit of misinformation in this post. Dedicated servers were available for most xbox one games if the developers choose to use them. They work more than perfect when it comes to Titanfall. They also worked well with the Halo 5: Guardians Beta. Its not surprising that they're having issues with a game developed by 4 different companies with multiple engines on multiple PC architectures using two different networking architectures from two different consoles.

Hey DSight, I get that it was/is still a monumental task, but they should NOT have undertaken it the way they did. The longer things go with this game the more obvious it is that they are doing the absolute bare minimum, and not all that concerned about the consumers of this product. It is really disheartening in a way. I was a big MS fan up until this. I am a PC, btw, not a Mac; in witnessing what they have done with this Collection or what they haven't done boggles the mind. This is a Fortune 500, billions of dollars company. How more people, higher up did not lose their jobs is beyond me.

I will not be pre-ordering, or buying directly from MS. I will wait, and by it all used from my local Gamestop. The only thing MS is getting from me now is the XBL subscription.

P.S. I realize I have missed a lot of this thread, but I saw this on the first page and I wanted to respond to it right away.

Trigger Happy M wrote:

WavePunk wrote:

Trigger Happy M wrote:

WavePunk wrote:

I think the fact that this has A) Stayed on the top of the board for the last 3 days and B) has a near equal number of votes in both columns, is a testament to the fact that not everyone on the forum is just here to complain. There are people here who love the games 343 has made or at least love Halo and want it to be a better place. Very Cool.

I really would love to see more transparency from 343 before giving them more money, but this small poll indicates that the community is not united enough in this thought to actually sway sales to a degree that would get 343's attention. Oh well, atleast I know now!

Successful Thread, trolls and all!

Not that this represents EVERY person who would even consider buying Halo 5 but the fact that it more or less says you (343i) only have a 50% approval rating on your next product from fans who are members of this website should be pretty unsettling to them as a company.

It's an interesting point to consider. From my personal experience, I seek out a company's website's forum either because I really loved a product or because I had a problem. I have no idea what the average ratio of supporters to problemers on a company's forum is, but 1 to 1 speculatively sounds right. So given this demographic, the 50% approval doesn't seem to off. Push out a survey with this question to all customers who have purchased a 343 product and recieve the same results? Ok, now be very concerned.

Yeah if they literally had everyone who bought a 343 product answer your survey and the numbers were at 50%, I know for a fact the company I work for the higher ups would probably do a complete restructuring of my region and an active investigation into why the numbers were so low. However if 343 did this and got an 80% or 90% they'll keep on going with what they've been doing. Though realistically from the overall public I honestly feel they might get a 60% or 65%..... Not hating on Halo 5 here, just stating they have done an extremely poor job supporting the products they have released so far. The reason of it even being a 65% estimate is because a lot of people have very short attention spans and Microsoft loves to push out flashy marketing campaigns to help distract from previous failures.

WavePunk wrote:

Trigger Happy M wrote:

WavePunk wrote:

Trigger Happy M wrote:

WavePunk wrote:

I think the fact that this has A) Stayed on the top of the board for the last 3 days and B) has a near equal number of votes in both columns, is a testament to the fact that not everyone on the forum is just here to complain. There are people here who love the games 343 has made or at least love Halo and want it to be a better place. Very Cool.

I really would love to see more transparency from 343 before giving them more money, but this small poll indicates that the community is not united enough in this thought to actually sway sales to a degree that would get 343's attention. Oh well, atleast I know now!

Successful Thread, trolls and all!

Not that this represents EVERY person who would even consider buying Halo 5 but the fact that it more or less says you (343i) only have a 50% approval rating on your next product from fans who are members of this website should be pretty unsettling to them as a company.

It's an interesting point to consider. From my personal experience, I seek out a company's website's forum either because I really loved a product or because I had a problem. I have no idea what the average ratio of supporters to problemers on a company's forum is, but 1 to 1 speculatively sounds right. So given this demographic, the 50% approval doesn't seem to off. Push out a survey with this question to all customers who have purchased a 343 product and recieve the same results? Ok, now be very concerned.

Yeah if they literally had everyone who bought a 343 product answer your survey and the numbers were at 50%, I know for a fact the company I work for the higher ups would probably do a complete restructuring of my region and an active investigation into why the numbers were so low. However if 343 did this and got an 80% or 90% they'll keep on going with what they've been doing. Though realistically from the overall public I honestly feel they might get a 60% or 65%..... Not hating on Halo 5 here, just stating they have done an extremely poor job supporting the products they have released so far. The reason of it even being a 65% estimate is because a lot of people have very short attention spans and Microsoft loves to push out flashy marketing campaigns to help distract from previous failures.

Agreed. 343 has a consistent track record of getting me very excited about a product with fantastic marketing and then failing to deliver. It continues even now; I'm excited about Halo 5, like really excited. I pray this is the game that breaks the cycle. But I'm definitely going to wait a bit to find out.