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[Locked] Chief is 47 years old. How old is too old?

OP SycoLand

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Now don't get me wrong I love the Master Chief but ultimately, he cant do this forever.

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Chiefs Actual Age

After much calculation I believe Chiefs physical age is actually closer to 35 rather than his chronological age of 47 due to an accrued cryosleep time from traveling between missions (With Blue Team having the most out of the entire UNSC). I Figure 5 years included in game (1 for transport and 4 for between Halo 3 and 4) and another 7 throughout his 30 year career, (before Halo 1-3 and in between 4 and 5), with Blue Team. For a total of 12 years cryosleep making him physically 35.

If 40 was old age in the past ...... and middle age is 40 now (including a few 70 year old cut physically fit people that are active today, maybe not to the point of a Spartan however lol)... Then Middle age could easily be 60 or even 70 in 2558....

Explanation of Johnson @ 83 Years of Age

SGT Johnson was pretty old (although his birth date was never given)
He was a private and an ODST in Operation: TANGLEWOOD apparently (Book: Contact Harvest).
And by 2491 he was accepted into the ORION Project.
Now potential ODSTs are selected because of their performance in their chosen Military Occupational Specialty; because every ODST candidate is a veteran from another special operations outfit, within the UNSC Marine Corps, the Army, and the Navy they have already gone through at least two layers of screening and months of intense training—not counting the years of training received before volunteering for the ODST.
ORION was also a volunteer project and only had 165 individuals and was reinitiated in 2491 (61 years before Johnson died)

Given that he most likely joined the military right at 18 add the 61 as a next step to get 79 years!!!!!! That's not including his years between joining the UNSC Marine Corps, joining the ODST's and up to Project ORION.

Because he was in his respective branch for years becoming a veteran specialist before being accepted as an ODST, within which I would imagine he spent years before being accepted for ORION....... that makes him... well old as F...

lets say he is BA because well he is.... and he blew through the military becoming a specialist with veteran quality skills quick within say 2 years
he joined ODST say in 2489 (2 years before the ORION project was reinitiated).....

That makes him a whopping 83 years old when he died in 2552
Dec 11, 2552 - Death (Halo 3) @ 83
Aug 30, 2552 - @ 83
Rescued by and meets John-117 for the first time on Reach Station Gamma (End of The Battle of Reach just before going into Cryo)
2491 - Joined the ORION Project @ 22
2489 - Joined the ODST's @ 20
2487 - Joined the UNSC Marine Corps @ 18
2469 - Born

Explanation of the Hayflick Limit @ about 120 Years of Age

The concept of the Hayflick limit was advanced by American anatomist Leonard Hayflick in 1961, at the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Hayflick demonstrated that a population of normal human fetal cells in a cell culture will divide between 40 and 60 times. The population will then enter a senescence phase. Each mitosis slightly shortens each of the telomeres on the DNA of the cells. Telomere shortening in humans eventually makes cell division impossible, and this aging of the cell population appears to correlate with the overall physical aging of the human body.

Since then, Hayflick and others have successfully documented the Hayflick limits of cells from animals with varied life spans, including the long-lived Galapagos turtle (200 years) and the relatively short-lived laboratory mouse (3 years). The cells of a Galapagos turtle divide approximately 110 times before senescing, whereas mice cells become senescent within around 15 divisions.

Its the Future and... Its Master Chief

We are talking about 543 years in the future, with technology always exponentially increasing and has increased further with covenant tech and propelled even further with forerunner tech... the true capabilities of 2558 Human technology is unfathomable...

Now as for the Master Chief Petty Officer SPARTAN-II John-117
Unbreakable bones and many other augmentations including muscle and nervous system upgrades would delay and possibly even sidestep many "old age" disabilities.
Making SPARTAN-IIs have an advantage over humans, ORION, even Spartan-IIIs and IVs because they are undoubtedly physically superior to all of these.

Now with this all being said how long can a Spartan-II be an Active Spartan

But of course we are not talking about just any Spartan we are talking about the Master Chief John-117..
The single greatest human being to ever exist....
The most genetically perfect...
Ultra soldier amongst super soldiers...
....and don't forget the luckiest

On top of that The Librarian accelerated Master Chief's genetic evolution and unlock his full potential.... who knows what that does to his lifespan
On one hand it could in effect "repair" the telomeres for continued cell division past the Hayflick Limit
On the other it could have in effect "aged" Chief an unknown amount of years in order to unlock his potential.

At what point does his body or even mind fail him?... When does he retire?.. This is my question... I know its not easy to answer but still fun to ponder.

like I said hes got at least 12 years cryosleep making him go from 47-35....and Johnson was a BA at 83.... so he has got to be at least 100-120+ before he isn't BA.
in my opinion, based on the data, there is no other way.
Of course the likelihood of him actually surviving till then is relatively slim but then again he does have luck on his side.

Explanation of "Spartans Never Die"

When the UNSC went public with the SPARTAN-II program, the Office of Naval Intelligence feared that reports of Spartans losses would cause a crippling loss of morale throughout the UNSC. To prevent this, Section Two of ONI issued a directive requiring the falsification of any circumstances regarding the deaths of Spartans, specifically, it banned the application of KIA status to SPARTAN-II personnel. The protocol created and maintained the myth that Spartans never die, and led to the common use of the bitterly ironic phrase "Spartans never die" among the Spartans themselves. This has not gone unnoticed by the Covenant, whose members (including Prophets) often refer to Spartans as "demons", due to their ability to kill thousands of Covenant infantry at a time without death.
the next question is what would Chief do without a war to fight?..... can he even do anything else.... maybe he would rather die in the field than just stop all together?....
Never, because Spartans never die.
It's been stated that John's physical age is actually much lower because of time spent in cryo sleep, which slows the age process down.
Man he runs like he's a healthy 25 year old. LOL
HMMM yes must do knew calculations due to cryo sleep
MAX2107 wrote:
It's been stated that John's physical age is actually much lower because of time spent in cryo sleep, which slows the age process down.
so master chief was in cryo sleep for like less than a month between getting hurt in the fall of reach and being awakened in Halo 1... so that doesn't even matter honestly. The only other time was at the end of halo 3 up to the beginning of halo 4 which was about 5 years..... This still puts chief at 42... I have found no other material within which he was put into cryo sleep if anyone knows more on this please post it.
L3ntPuma wrote:
Never, because Spartans never die.
with Chief being the first to become a full blown Spartan-II... the idea of an elderly Spartan has not presented itself yet.... They are not immortal... they can't be... no human is immune to time...
so old
Man he runs like he's a healthy 25 year old. LOL
well that is skewed a little cuz in real life ive seen 50 year old men compete in American Ninja Warrior and the like... me being 25 I cannot do such things.... therefore there are 50 year old men in better shape than 25 year old men...

they can probably beat me in a foot race as well so in other words that's not something especially unique... but there has to be side effects on working his body so hard for literally like 40 straight years minus 5 years in cryo sleep
SycoLand wrote:
MAX2107 wrote:
It's been stated that John's physical age is actually much lower because of time spent in cryo sleep, which slows the age process down.
so master chief was in cryo sleep for like less than a month between getting hurt in the fall of reach and being awakened in Halo 1... so that doesn't even matter honestly. The only other time was at the end of halo 3 up to the beginning of halo 4 which was about 5 years..... This still puts chief at 42... I have found no other material within which he was put into cryo sleep if anyone knows more on this please post it.
Master chief was in Cryosleep much more than that. It is typical practice to send crew into Cryosleep during long voyages. Most slipspace trips take at least a few weeks, (it took more than a month to get to the Ark in Halo 3) and there is no reason to be sitting around using up resources such as food and Air, along with muscle atrophy from being inside a confined space for so long, (not from zero gravity) when they can just freeze them until they need them. These long travel times are the reason they even have cryosleep. Blue team has the most missions of any fire team, (Quote from Halo 5) so it can be inferred that they have spent a considerable amount of time in cryo. I might take a guess that chief might not be thirty yet, or if he is, very early thirties. The games leave out a lot of the filler of sitting around as a chief-sicle, because that is boring.
Remember how the Librarian sped up Chief's "evolution?" That probably has something to do with it as well, that may directly correlate to the length of his life (excluding all variables besides old age). I'm sure his original genetics plus the augmentations plus the technology expected in 2558 or more like the 2500's in general, he'll live longer than a normal human, most II's probably will anyways. I'm gonna say 100.
Id imagine this os why they have started phasing him out... a nice heroic death in 6 and his story will be over id say or else we go into the whole "die a hero or live long enough to become the villan" scenero
You have to take into account all the time he's spent in cryogenic sleep, and also, Sgt. Johnson was in his sixties. So Master Chief being a Spartan II probably allows him to push a little beyond that before he needs to call it quits.

Also take into account that this is 500 years into the future, so medical advancements have probably made it possible for humans to live longer than we do now. So being in his 40's really isn't that big of a deal.
SycoLand wrote:
L3ntPuma wrote:
Never, because Spartans never die.
with Chief being the first to become a full blown Spartan-II... the idea of an elderly Spartan has not presented itself yet.... They are not immortal... they can't be... no human is immune to time...
I was just joking.
We also have to consider that the Librarian -Yoinked!- with his dna in 4... which, since they lived for hundreds of years, could also have an impact on his lifespan!
SycoLand wrote:
MAX2107 wrote:
It's been stated that John's physical age is actually much lower because of time spent in cryo sleep, which slows the age process down.
so master chief was in cryo sleep for like less than a month between getting hurt in the fall of reach and being awakened in Halo 1... so that doesn't even matter honestly. The only other time was at the end of halo 3 up to the beginning of halo 4 which was about 5 years..... This still puts chief at 42... I have found no other material within which he was put into cryo sleep if anyone knows more on this please post it.
Master chief was in Cryosleep much more than that. It is typical practice to send crew into Cryosleep during long voyages. Most slipspace trips take at least a few weeks, (it took more than a month to get to the Ark in Halo 3) and there is no reason to be sitting around using up resources such as food and Air, along with muscle atrophy from being inside a confined space for so long, (not from zero gravity) when they can just freeze them until they need them. These long travel times are the reason they even have cryosleep. Blue team has the most missions of any fire team, (Quote from Halo 5) so it can be inferred that they have spent a considerable amount of time in cryo. I might take a guess that chief might not be thirty yet, or if he is, very early thirties. The games leave out a lot of the filler of sitting around as a chief-sicle, because that is boring.
ahhh that makes sense so now I need to calculate mission travel time and amount of missions... hmmm... so lets say they have had 100 missions just cause... and it took a min of 3 months per trip.... now I'm overestimating all of this.... that's 300 months and 25 years... in order to be late 20s or early 30's this would have to be true.... I don't think it was that much though so lets say 75 missions at 1 month... that's 75 months... that's 6 years putting him at mid 30's and seems more likely to me... either way it doesn't change the fact that he is still aging... and will grow OLD... might take awhile... but itl happen
DanielsxTV wrote:
Remember how the Librarian sped up Chief's "evolution?" That probably has something to do with it as well, that may directly correlate to the length of his life (excluding all variables besides old age). I'm sure his original genetics plus the augmentations plus the technology expected in 2558 or more like the 2500's in general, he'll live longer than a normal human, most II's probably will anyways. I'm gonna say 100.
That is aa very good point he might have had his cells "healed" in a sense allowing for more divisions and making his lifespan inevitably longer
I can't believe you didn't put the max age as 117.
I can't believe you didn't put the max age as 117.
Seconded, edit it!
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