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I know the cannon is screwed up but the gameplay would be fun.
Can you play directly with the xbox one control?
It would be great if you add a game pass
The canon isn't screwed up at all.
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
They put the halo 4 handgun and the halo 4 warthog in fire-team raven. Even though they were created years after the events of halo ce. And also the odst armor and helmet they were wearing was created during halo 5. Which came years after halo ce too.
The canon isn't screwed up at all.
If you want an answer to why I said the canons screwed up then read what I said to the other guy.
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
They put the halo 4 handgun and the halo 4 warthog in fire-team raven. Even though they were created years after the events of halo ce. And also the odst armor and helmet they were wearing was created during halo 5. Which came years after halo ce too.
Halo 4 uses the same magnum at Reach, which takes place immediately before CE. No reason to think that pistol wouldn't have also been on the Autumn, just like the Falcons. The Halo 4 style warthog has appeared in many things set before, and around the same time as CE. It existed at the same time and, again, contradicts nothing by being there. The ODST armor has a number of variants in use at any one time, and there's nothing in Raven that makes it look like it's meant to be a different version than what appeared in Reach, 3 and ODST.

Most of those appearances are more to do with art-style than canon.
If you look at the FAQ I'm sure your questions will be answered. There are currently no plans for release on Xbox or any other platform.

And don't confuse art style with cannon. They aren't always the same thing.
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
They put the halo 4 handgun and the halo 4 warthog in fire-team raven. Even though they were created years after the events of halo ce. And also the odst armor and helmet they were wearing was created during halo 5. Which came years after halo ce too.
Halo 4 uses the same magnum at Reach, which takes place immediately before CE. No reason to think that pistol wouldn't have also been on the Autumn, just like the Falcons. The Halo 4 style warthog has appeared in many things set before, and around the same time as CE. It existed at the same time and, again, contradicts nothing by being there. The ODST armor has a number of variants in use at any one time, and there's nothing in Raven that makes it look like it's meant to be a different version than what appeared in Reach, 3 and ODST.

Most of those appearances are more to do with art-style than canon.
Then tell me why halo 4s magnum sounds way different from reaches. Also, halo 4s magnum looks different if you compare them. And, name 1 halo game that had halo 4s warthog before the events of halo 4. And. in the lore of halo there were only 2 different ODST armor and none of them look like halo 5/ravens armor. Also, they had halo 2s shotgun and many other guns that weren't in halo ce. I have proof that the POA had no halo 2 and halo 4 guns. In the first and last level of halo ce you are in the POA and you have to go all over the POA. And the only guns you find are the halo ce guns. no halo 2 shotguns or halo 4 handguns or ect 1 More thing. The shotgun is automatic. Even though its a bolt action like gun. Same thin with the rocket launcher how in raven it shoots unlimited rounds without reloading and making the 2 shot appearance useless even though its a 2 shot reload in the actual canon. I have sooooo much more I could say but it would take longer so yeah this game breaks the lore.
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If you look at the FAQ I'm sure your questions will be answered. There are currently no plans for release on Xbox or any other platform.

And don't confuse art style with cannon. They aren't always the same thing.
Art style isn't the only thing that screws up the lore.
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
They put the halo 4 handgun and the halo 4 warthog in fire-team raven. Even though they were created years after the events of halo ce. And also the odst armor and helmet they were wearing was created during halo 5. Which came years after halo ce too.
Halo 4 uses the same magnum at Reach, which takes place immediately before CE. No reason to think that pistol wouldn't have also been on the Autumn, just like the Falcons. The Halo 4 style warthog has appeared in many things set before, and around the same time as CE. It existed at the same time and, again, contradicts nothing by being there. The ODST armor has a number of variants in use at any one time, and there's nothing in Raven that makes it look like it's meant to be a different version than what appeared in Reach, 3 and ODST.

Most of those appearances are more to do with art-style than canon.
Then tell me why halo 4s magnum sounds way different from reaches. Also, halo 4s magnum looks different if you compare them. And, name 1 halo game that had halo 4s warthog before the events of halo 4. And. in the lore of halo there were only 2 different ODST armor and none of them look like halo 5/ravens armor. Also, they had halo 2s shotgun and many other guns that weren't in halo ce. I have proof that the POA had no halo 2 and halo 4 guns. In the first and last level of halo ce you are in the POA and you have to go all over the POA. And the only guns you find are the halo ce guns. no halo 2 shotguns or halo 4 handguns or ect 1 More thing. The shotgun is automatic. Even though its a bolt action like gun. Same thin with the rocket launcher how in raven it shoots unlimited rounds without reloading and making the 2 shot appearance useless even though its a 2 shot reload in the actual canon. I have sooooo much more I could say but it would take longer so yeah this game breaks the lore.
It seems I was actually mistaken about Halo 4 using the same pistol as Reach. I haven't seen any footage of the pistol in Raven, so no idea there. That said, sound design changes with every game, as does art style to some extent. This was the case with the M6G pistol, which was featured in 3 and Reach but with significantly different sound effects, gameplay mechanics and a change in the visual design. The lore has never explicitly stated anything about when the particular designs of Warthogs or ODST armours came into use, however we do know that the Halo 2 and 3 styles of ODST armour were in use together, along with a number of sub-variants. Raven's version is just a different art-style and depicts the exact same armour we've seen before. Halo 4's warthog has been seen in comics set before CE, Halo 2 Anniversary (taking place in the same year as CE), Spartan Strike (set during Halo 2) and also was onboard the Forward Unto Dawn at the start of 4, meaning they would have been there in Halo 3 (again, same year as 3). The shotgun in Halo CE is the same as 2 (and 3). They all used the M90. Rate of fire is a gameplay mechanic, always subject to change and not meant to reflect canon. Canonically, all the shotguns have better range for example. Same goes for the rocket launcher. It's a different genre, so it's to be expected that they'd work differently.
I like how the title op the post, had nothing to do with the thread curently going on. What ever it looks like isnt the porblem, neither is the time line. The problem is that its a arcade cabined built by guys who want to make money by puting it in dave and busters. This isnt spartan asualt, we cant just port everything. Even if they did it wont be soon, we dont even have leader boards up for the game.
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
They put the halo 4 handgun and the halo 4 warthog in fire-team raven. Even though they were created years after the events of halo ce. And also the odst armor and helmet they were wearing was created during halo 5. Which came years after halo ce too.
Halo 4 uses the same magnum at Reach, which takes place immediately before CE. No reason to think that pistol wouldn't have also been on the Autumn, just like the Falcons. The Halo 4 style warthog has appeared in many things set before, and around the same time as CE. It existed at the same time and, again, contradicts nothing by being there. The ODST armor has a number of variants in use at any one time, and there's nothing in Raven that makes it look like it's meant to be a different version than what appeared in Reach, 3 and ODST.

Most of those appearances are more to do with art-style than canon.
Then tell me why halo 4s magnum sounds way different from reaches. Also, halo 4s magnum looks different if you compare them. And, name 1 halo game that had halo 4s warthog before the events of halo 4. And. in the lore of halo there were only 2 different ODST armor and none of them look like halo 5/ravens armor. Also, they had halo 2s shotgun and many other guns that weren't in halo ce. I have proof that the POA had no halo 2 and halo 4 guns. In the first and last level of halo ce you are in the POA and you have to go all over the POA. And the only guns you find are the halo ce guns. no halo 2 shotguns or halo 4 handguns or ect 1 More thing. The shotgun is automatic. Even though its a bolt action like gun. Same thin with the rocket launcher how in raven it shoots unlimited rounds without reloading and making the 2 shot appearance useless even though its a 2 shot reload in the actual canon. I have sooooo much more I could say but it would take longer so yeah this game breaks the lore.
It seems I was actually mistaken about Halo 4 using the same pistol as Reach. I haven't seen any footage of the pistol in Raven, so no idea there. That said, sound design changes with every game, as does art style to some extent. This was the case with the M6G pistol, which was featured in 3 and Reach but with significantly different sound effects, gameplay mechanics and a change in the visual design. The lore has never explicitly stated anything about when the particular designs of Warthogs or ODST armours came into use, however we do know that the Halo 2 and 3 styles of ODST armour were in use together, along with a number of sub-variants. Raven's version is just a different art-style and depicts the exact same armour we've seen before. Halo 4's warthog has been seen in comics set before CE, Halo 2 Anniversary (taking place in the same year as CE), Spartan Strike (set during Halo 2) and also was onboard the Forward Unto Dawn at the start of 4, meaning they would have been there in Halo 3 (again, same year as 3). The shotgun in Halo CE is the same as 2 (and 3). They all used the M90. Rate of fire is a gameplay mechanic, always subject to change and not meant to reflect canon. Canonically, all the shotguns have better range for example. Same goes for the rocket launcher. It's a different genre, so it's to be expected that they'd work differently.
Look up the gameplay of raven then you'll know that the canons screwed up. Also, the halo 2 shotgun and the halo 4 handgun look nothing like halo ce's look it up. Also If you look in the POA in ce you will find no trace of any of the shotguns from halo 2 and wont find 4s handguns and the same stash you get your ce guns from the POW is the same stash the ODSTs from raven get there halo 2 and 4 guns. Also, In the level 'the maw' you will find the place where they keep the warthogs. In fireteam raven the warthogs your in are from that same place in ce but looking like 4s warthog but in the maw where the warthogs are you only see halo ce/2s hogs. And, halo 2 anniversary is not canon so it doesn't count. Also the rocket launchers you use in raven have unlimited ammo and no reloading and its the same launcher from halo ce that you use so that makes nooooo sense at all and the lauchers in raven are also from halo 4 even though it takes place durind halo ce so I guess they can change there appearance to look like 4s launchers?
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
They put the halo 4 handgun and the halo 4 warthog in fire-team raven. Even though they were created years after the events of halo ce. And also the odst armor and helmet they were wearing was created during halo 5. Which came years after halo ce too.
Halo 4 uses the same magnum at Reach, which takes place immediately before CE. No reason to think that pistol wouldn't have also been on the Autumn, just like the Falcons. The Halo 4 style warthog has appeared in many things set before, and around the same time as CE. It existed at the same time and, again, contradicts nothing by being there. The ODST armor has a number of variants in use at any one time, and there's nothing in Raven that makes it look like it's meant to be a different version than what appeared in Reach, 3 and ODST.

Most of those appearances are more to do with art-style than canon.
Look up the gameplay of raven then you'll know that the canons screwed up. Also, the halo 2 shotgun and the halo 4 handgun look nothing like halo ce's look it up. Also If you look in the POA in ce you will find no trace of any of the shotguns from halo 2 and wont find 4s handguns and the same stash you get your ce guns from the POW is the same stash the ODSTs from raven get there halo 2 and 4 guns. Also, In the level 'the maw' you will find the place where they keep the warthogs. In fireteam raven the warthogs your in are from that same place in ce but looking like 4s warthog but in the maw where the warthogs are you only see halo ce/2s hogs. And, halo 2 anniversary is not canon so it doesn't count. Also the rocket launchers you use in raven have unlimited ammo and no reloading and its the same launcher from halo ce that you use so that makes nooooo sense at all and the lauchers in raven are also from halo 4 even though it takes place durind halo ce so I guess they can change there appearance to look like 4s launchers?
Of course you won't find anything from future games in CE, it's the first game in the franchise. It couldn't have been filled with what we have today. Did Bungie though about the Didact when they were developing CE? No. Halo 2 Shotgun is simply an artistic change as canonically it's still the same Shotgun.
What's the deal with the Warthog? Again, it's an artistic change. Canonically, they're the same Warthog.
What's wrong with Rockets with unlimited ammo? That one is for pure fun, after all, games should be designed with "fun" in mind. Also, again, the Rocket Launcher are the same, just with different aesthetic.Oh, and the Rocket Launcher from CE all the way up to 4 is EXACTLY THE SAME, just with minor differences in aesthetics, but that's it. The RL from CE is the same one from 4.
Nah they need to add Halo Reach but whats with cannon?
They put the halo 4 handgun and the halo 4 warthog in fire-team raven. Even though they were created years after the events of halo ce. And also the odst armor and helmet they were wearing was created during halo 5. Which came years after halo ce too.
Halo 4 uses the same magnum at Reach, which takes place immediately before CE. No reason to think that pistol wouldn't have also been on the Autumn, just like the Falcons. The Halo 4 style warthog has appeared in many things set before, and around the same time as CE. It existed at the same time and, again, contradicts nothing by being there. The ODST armor has a number of variants in use at any one time, and there's nothing in Raven that makes it look like it's meant to be a different version than what appeared in Reach, 3 and ODST.

Most of those appearances are more to do with art-style than canon.
Look up the gameplay of raven then you'll know that the canons screwed up. Also, the halo 2 shotgun and the halo 4 handgun look nothing like halo ce's look it up. Also If you look in the POA in ce you will find no trace of any of the shotguns from halo 2 and wont find 4s handguns and the same stash you get your ce guns from the POW is the same stash the ODSTs from raven get there halo 2 and 4 guns. Also, In the level 'the maw' you will find the place where they keep the warthogs. In fireteam raven the warthogs your in are from that same place in ce but looking like 4s warthog but in the maw where the warthogs are you only see halo ce/2s hogs. And, halo 2 anniversary is not canon so it doesn't count. Also the rocket launchers you use in raven have unlimited ammo and no reloading and its the same launcher from halo ce that you use so that makes nooooo sense at all and the lauchers in raven are also from halo 4 even though it takes place durind halo ce so I guess they can change there appearance to look like 4s launchers?
Check this out:
"Q: In games with an anniversary edition (CEA and H2A), should we take new graphics as canon over the older ones, one example being the Gravemind's massive overhaul.BaconShelfA: In most instances, the visuals depicted in an 'Anniversary' edition should be taken as the definitive representations. The Gravemind as depicted in Halo 2: Anniversary is one such instance."
sauce: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/canon-fodder-clarity-grace.

So I guess it depends. But for "most instances", the Anniversary games are canon now, not the originals. So then I guess you have to ask all these questions again, except keep in mind there are now Halo 4 Warthogs in Halo 2 and Reach Warthogs in CE, etc.

Sometimes (especially with a franchise as old as Halo) you've got to stretch your imagination a bit. Create your own little head-canon to clear things up for yourself. "What happened to armor abilities between Reach and Halo 4 canonically?" Good question! Answer? Beats me! How about this: after the fall of Reach, the war was going so poorly (especially considering how many Spartans were lost), the UNSC had to divert resources into more critical areas than the research & development of armor abilities, so the production of them was shelved. For the Spartans, they focused on moving forward with the Mark VI upgrades and the less intrusive, single use, presumably less expensive, equipment that we see in Halo 3. That's why no armor abilities are seen again until post-war? Make sense? I don't know. Just pulled it out me -Yoink!-

Reach, CE, H2, & H3 all take place within a year. Just months apart. It would be silly to think that each weapon is specific to the time period of each game. So if a gun from a later game makes an appearance in an Anniversary or prequel-type game, there are more rational ways of explaining it. There exist tons of variants of weapons today in real life, so of course they have multiple types in the future. What you use in each game is what happens to be available to you at that time & place, but not necessary exclusively. Perhaps whoever was supplying the UNSC on Reach was partial to the DMR, or had some sort of contract with Misriah Armory. Same goes with Earth and BR's. Like military contractors in real life.

But if we ever revisit Reach in 2552 and there are Battle Rifles present, it's not canon breaking (it would throw my previous excuse out the window, though). No one ever said "the Battle Rifle wasn't invented until you first saw it in game". You could simply say "the Battle Rifle wasn't a commonly used weapon in such & such place at such & such time." There exist guns that are uncommon to where I live, but commonly used on other parts of the planet. Or just to explain "why was no one using the Battle Rifle on Earth in ODST when EVERYONE was using them in the same city just hours before in Halo 2?" Answer: that squad simply wasn't using them. Decided ARs and SMGs and Magnums would get the job done. (Or "Chief used up all the BR ammo on Earth." lol.) Same rationale could be applied.

Also apply that to the Pillar of Autumn ... it surely has several armories on board. Chief didn't visit all of them. Perhaps different types of rocket launchers were elsewhere. Perhaps various makes & models of Warthogs were in different bays. You've seen how many different kinds there are in Halo 5 alone. If the Infinity has that many, The PoA can surely have a few different models. Maybe it even had a DMR and a Jetpack on board, who knows?

Basically, what I'm suggesting is, when you encounter these little oddities where art style and canon conflict, just pretend you're the person working for 343 who has to do damage control and find a clever way to make sense of these things. Because if we don't get an answer, it'll nag at you. So if you have a little head canon going on to explain it (hopefully ones better than mine), it'll help. Just broaden that scope; the Halo universe is one big universe, not a series of isolated games ... or it's both, whatever helps make sense of it.
With all due respect, you seem to be making a lot of mistaken assumptions about many things.

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And, name 1 halo game that had halo 4s warthog before the events of halo 4.
Um... Fireteam Raven, lol. Did you mean to say "name one other Halo game that had Halo 4's Warthog before the events of Halo 4"? And if so, how did you decide which games define/evolve the lore and which must simply abide by pre-defined lore?

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And. in the lore of halo there were only 2 different ODST armor and none of them look like halo 5/ravens armor.
Do you have a source for this? Where exactly in the lore are you referring to, and what reason to you have to believe the list was definitive?

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Also, they had halo 2s shotgun and many other guns that weren't in halo ce. I have proof that the POA had no halo 2 and halo 4 guns. In the first and last level of halo ce you are in the POA and you have to go all over the POA. And the only guns you find are the halo ce guns. no halo 2 shotguns or halo 4 handguns or ect
The game Halo CE not having guns that didn't come out until Halo 2 is not proof that the canonical POA had no SMGs or H2 shotguns. It's proof that developers inhabit the same linear timeline that we all do.

Regarding the behavior of the shotgun and rocket launcher, I haven't played it myself yet, so I'll have to take your word for it. Those do seem like potential problems for lore. It's almost forgivable if it makes the game more fun (perhaps waiting for a reload every two rocket shots isn't a good fit for a fast paced arcade game), but they should have just created new weapons then. So that's a good point you raise.

All in all though, you seem to think that weapons appearing in this game before they appeared in other games breaks the lore timeline. Unless you have a source indicating that, in universe, the weapons were not yet created, then there's no reason to have this mentality.
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Also, they had halo 2s shotgun and many other guns that weren't in halo ce. I have proof that the POA had no halo 2 and halo 4 guns. In the first and last level of halo ce you are in the POA and you have to go all over the POA. And the only guns you find are the halo ce guns. no halo 2 shotguns or halo 4 handguns or ect
The game Halo CE not having guns that didn't come out until Halo 2 is not proof that the canonical POA had no SMGs or H2 shotguns. It's proof that developers inhabit the same linear timeline that we all do.

Regarding the behavior of the shotgun and rocket launcher, I haven't played it myself yet, so I'll have to take your word for it. Those do seem like potential problems for lore. It's almost forgivable if it makes the game more fun (perhaps waiting for a reload every two rocket shots isn't a good fit for a fast paced arcade game), but they should have just created new weapons then. So that's a good point you raise.

All in all though, you seem to think that weapons appearing in this game before they appeared in other games breaks the lore timeline. Unless you have a source indicating that, in universe, the weapons were not yet created, then there's no reason to have this mentality.
You have to reload the Shotgun after 13 shots, just like CE and Halo 2.
The sections where we use Rocket Launchers is when hordes of enemies enter the screen giving no interval between reloads. They come out too fast for a reload hence why they have bottomless clip. The proof is on YouTube, I've seen the whole playthough since I believe it won't make it to my country.
Okay idk what's going on in here but none of this thread is related to the OP.

OP - No. This cannot be added to game pass. It's a completely separate experience.