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OP EdgeHedgehog

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from capered humans
translation software from ONI
Yea. This is the best explanation. It is shown in action in one of the Nightfall mini story's during an interrogation.
translation software from ONI
Then that would raise the question as to how ONI learned how to translate Sangheili to English.
From what I've read or seen 90% of what we hear them say comes through translation software. Also I do believe a few Sangheili learned human curse words or insults so they can mock us in our own tongue.
translation software from ONI
Then that would raise the question as to how ONI learned how to translate Sangheili to English.
As for this while not many we (ONI) did manage to capture some Covenant soldiers alive bettering translation software also AI that managed to get into covenant systems be they ship or personal armour would have learned to translate the suits covenant language to figure out what's being said across the covenant comms.
We all know that the covenant doesnt speak english so,how have they learned it.
In an book it has been stated that an special group of elites and grunts where allowed to study the human language.
I mean you can teach an person to say an specific sentence but if he dont understand the meaning behind the words they are useless for them.
Magic. No really. The fact that the Covenant managed to translate the following sentence: "Your destruction is the will of the gods" in a limited period of time (one to eight months) using nothing but pilfered nav computers and the sweat and tears of lowly grunts is nothing short of magic.

Realistically, due to the immense differences in anatomy, geo-spatial placement and social climate - the translation of an entirely different (truly alien in concept) system of verbal communication, much less writing, is an costly and time-consuming process in itself. Requiring, an thorough understanding of the peer subject's biology and social customs... something that the Covenant simply didn't have the opportunity for considering they glassed and wiped out the local population on Harvest. Presuming that they had even captured a couple of live human specimens (in a decent state of health), they would still require their cooperation, instructional material, an linguist of extraordinary caliber who could teach them the foundation of a language through face-to-face communication (recognition of speech), time, patience and a means of breaking down the obvious barriers surrounding means of communicating, sensory organs, and how they function.

On the later statement, the difference between vocal tracts would make face-to-face communication difficult to begin with due to (evolution!) specialized auditory systems that have been tuned to recognize certain sounds only some Covenant species or local animals could replicate, in comparison to the unique environments we arised from. And even then, that's assuming that such compatibility between patterns of interpretations even exists. Once you're all done with that... then you can focus on coding. And that's where Engineers become the critical component in bridging the gap between human and covenant computer systems - but alone, they still won't cut it.

To recap, the only reason the Covenant knew English first was because of plot magic.
translation software from ONI
Yeah i thought thats what it was, becuase as the player we allways have high tec helmets with the software. It makes sense that we can understand them.
We all know that the covenant doesnt speak english so,how have they learned it.
In an book it has been stated that an special group of elites and grunts where allowed to study the human language.
I mean you can teach an person to say an specific sentence but if he dont understand the meaning behind the words they are useless for them.
Magic. No really. The fact that the Covenant managed to translate the following sentence: "Your destruction is the will of the gods" in a limited period of time (one to eight months) using nothing but pilfered nav computers and the sweat and tears of lowly grunts is nothing short of magic.

Realistically, due to the immense differences in anatomy, geo-spatial placement and social climate - the translation of an entirely different (truly alien in concept) system of verbal communication, much less writing, is an costly and time-consuming process in itself. Requiring, an thorough understanding of the peer subject's biology and social customs... something that the Covenant simply didn't have the opportunity for considering they glassed and wiped out the local population on Harvest. Presuming that they had even captured a couple of live human specimens (in a decent state of health), they would still require their cooperation, instructional material, an linguist of extraordinary caliber who could teach them the foundation of a language through face-to-face communication (recognition of speech), time, patience and a means of breaking down the obvious barriers surrounding means of communicating, sensory organs, and how they function.

On the later statement, the difference between vocal tracts would make face-to-face communication difficult to begin with due to (evolution!) specialized auditory systems that have been tuned to recognize certain sounds only some Covenant species or local animals could replicate, in comparison to the unique environments we arised from. And even then, that's assuming that such compatibility between patterns of interpretations even exists. Once you're all done with that... then you can focus on coding. And that's where Engineers become the critical component in bridging the gap between human and covenant computer systems - but alone, they still won't cut it.

To recap, the only reason the Covenant knew English first was because of plot magic.
Thats the kind of answer I excepted.
New question,without war between humanity and the covenant,could it be that they could have learn the language on an noramal base without plot magic?
We all know that the covenant doesnt speak english so,how have they learned it.
In an book it has been stated that an special group of elites and grunts where allowed to study the human language.
I mean you can teach an person to say an specific sentence but if he dont understand the meaning behind the words they are useless for them.
Magic. No really. The fact that the Covenant managed to translate the following sentence: "Your destruction is the will of the gods" in a limited period of time (one to eight months) using nothing but pilfered nav computers and the sweat and tears of lowly grunts is nothing short of magic.

Realistically, due to the immense differences in anatomy, geo-spatial placement and social climate - the translation of an entirely different (truly alien in concept) system of verbal communication, much less writing, is an costly and time-consuming process in itself. Requiring, an thorough understanding of the peer subject's biology and social customs... something that the Covenant simply didn't have the opportunity for considering they glassed and wiped out the local population on Harvest. Presuming that they had even captured a couple of live human specimens (in a decent state of health), they would still require their cooperation, instructional material, an linguist of extraordinary caliber who could teach them the foundation of a language through face-to-face communication (recognition of speech), time, patience and a means of breaking down the obvious barriers surrounding means of communicating, sensory organs, and how they function.

On the later statement, the difference between vocal tracts would make face-to-face communication difficult to begin with due to (evolution!) specialized auditory systems that have been tuned to recognize certain sounds only some Covenant species or local animals could replicate, in comparison to the unique environments we arised from. And even then, that's assuming that such compatibility between patterns of interpretations even exists. Once you're all done with that... then you can focus on coding. And that's where Engineers become the critical component in bridging the gap between human and covenant computer systems - but alone, they still won't cut it.

To recap, the only reason the Covenant knew English first was because of plot magic.
Thats the kind of answer I excepted.
New question,without war between humanity and the covenant,could it be that they could have learn the language on an noramal base without plot magic?
You're just over thinking it man, you're talking like all the races if the covenant are stupid and humans are ultra smart.

The covenants races are just as sentient as us, and being that they are a conglomerate of alien species, they CERTAINLY have the expertise in understanding alien languages(converting the unggoy, encountering the lekgolo, communicating with jiralhanae, etc). So encountering human's, they must've applied their tactics and and knowledge in deciphering our language. It's not that hard. If anything humans understanding and translating sangheili should be the real question, as humans have not encountered another alien language until harvest, and so would have no basis for deciphering the language.
We all know that the covenant doesnt speak english so,how have they learned it.
In an book it has been stated that an special group of elites and grunts where allowed to study the human language.
I mean you can teach an person to say an specific sentence but if he dont understand the meaning behind the words they are useless for them.
Magic. No really. The fact that the Covenant managed to translate the following sentence: "Your destruction is the will of the gods" in a limited period of time (one to eight months) using nothing but pilfered nav computers and the sweat and tears of lowly grunts is nothing short of magic.

Realistically, due to the immense differences in anatomy, geo-spatial placement and social climate - the translation of an entirely different (truly alien in concept) system of verbal communication, much less writing, is an costly and time-consuming process in itself. Requiring, an thorough understanding of the peer subject's biology and social customs... something that the Covenant simply didn't have the opportunity for considering they glassed and wiped out the local population on Harvest. Presuming that they had even captured a couple of live human specimens (in a decent state of health), they would still require their cooperation, instructional material, an linguist of extraordinary caliber who could teach them the foundation of a language through face-to-face communication (recognition of speech), time, patience and a means of breaking down the obvious barriers surrounding means of communicating, sensory organs, and how they function.

On the later statement, the difference between vocal tracts would make face-to-face communication difficult to begin with due to (evolution!) specialized auditory systems that have been tuned to recognize certain sounds only some Covenant species or local animals could replicate, in comparison to the unique environments we arised from. And even then, that's assuming that such compatibility between patterns of interpretations even exists. Once you're all done with that... then you can focus on coding. And that's where Engineers become the critical component in bridging the gap between human and covenant computer systems - but alone, they still won't cut it.

To recap, the only reason the Covenant knew English first was because of plot magic.
Thats the kind of answer I excepted.
New question,without war between humanity and the covenant,could it be that they could have learn the language on an noramal base without plot magic?
You're just over thinking it man, you're talking like all the races if the covenant are stupid and humans are ultra smart.

The covenants races are just as sentient as us, and being that they are a conglomerate of alien species, they CERTAINLY have the expertise in understanding alien languages(converting the unggoy, encountering the lekgolo, communicating with jiralhanae, etc). So encountering human's, they must've applied their tactics and and knowledge in deciphering our language. It's not that hard. If anything humans understanding and translating sangheili should be the real question, as humans have not encountered another alien language until harvest, and so would have no basis for deciphering the language.
First I know that the covenant is not stupid.
Of course they have experience in translating alien language but I wanted to know how the covenant learned alien languages and I took human language because its the well knowst among humans(surprise) which make theories and explanitions easier because there are small pieces about it in the lore.
Between translation software, constantly studying the respective species, being at war for over two decades, and having a massive impact on illegal black market operations, language probably became a priority for the Covenant. They're also highly intelligent for the most part.
We all know that the covenant doesnt speak english so,how have they learned it.
In an book it has been stated that an special group of elites and grunts where allowed to study the human language.
I mean you can teach an person to say an specific sentence but if he dont understand the meaning behind the words they are useless for them.
Magic. No really. The fact that the Covenant managed to translate the following sentence: "Your destruction is the will of the gods" in a limited period of time (one to eight months) using nothing but pilfered nav computers and the sweat and tears of lowly grunts is nothing short of magic.

Realistically, due to the immense differences in anatomy, geo-spatial placement and social climate - the translation of an entirely different (truly alien in concept) system of verbal communication, much less writing, is an costly and time-consuming process in itself. Requiring, an thorough understanding of the peer subject's biology and social customs... something that the Covenant simply didn't have the opportunity for considering they glassed and wiped out the local population on Harvest. Presuming that they had even captured a couple of live human specimens (in a decent state of health), they would still require their cooperation, instructional material, an linguist of extraordinary caliber who could teach them the foundation of a language through face-to-face communication (recognition of speech), time, patience and a means of breaking down the obvious barriers surrounding means of communicating, sensory organs, and how they function.

On the later statement, the difference between vocal tracts would make face-to-face communication difficult to begin with due to (evolution!) specialized auditory systems that have been tuned to recognize certain sounds only some Covenant species or local animals could replicate, in comparison to the unique environments we arised from. And even then, that's assuming that such compatibility between patterns of interpretations even exists. Once you're all done with that... then you can focus on coding. And that's where Engineers become the critical component in bridging the gap between human and covenant computer systems - but alone, they still won't cut it.

To recap, the only reason the Covenant knew English first was because of plot magic.
Thats the kind of answer I excepted.
New question,without war between humanity and the covenant,could it be that they could have learn the language on an noramal base without plot magic?
They have Forerunner AIs at their beck and call. Chained perhaps, damaged, but still powerful.
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The unggoy (grunts) are acceptionally good at translating languages . Say a elete or other squad leader could tap into human communications , it would only take a grunt a few days / weeks to understand what we are saying.
We all know that the covenant doesnt speak english so,how have they learned it.
In an book it has been stated that an special group of elites and grunts where allowed to study the human language.
I mean you can teach an person to say an specific sentence but if he dont understand the meaning behind the words they are useless for them.
It is standard military tactics to set to know your enemy. I read that the prophets organised heratic squads that would go out and learn human language and tech to better know the UNSC. This would have been done through torture, early in the war capturing libraries and other places of collective knowledge for study by analysis, intercepted comms etc.
We know that most of the races of the covanant but particularly the elites took learning English somewhat seriously simply to insult and provoke humans while in combat.
Doesn't seem very advantageous to use your enemies' langauge in a combat situation.They would understand which situation you and your teammates were in every time any of you would speak. Requesting backup, spotting an opponent or giving commands. It is way more favorable to speak in a language your opponents most likely don't know. That will certainly result in far fewer casualities.
Intercepted transmissions, UNSC prisoners, spies, who knows?
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