I like how I'm apparently short-sighted for not realizing two moles and black hair and dark brown eyes are supposed to be seriously distinguishing features but apparently the significant changes in art and design going from Bungie to 343 are apparently invisible to you. This is why I don't take the idea that "Halo had always been visually consistent" seriously. I am also glad we are willing to toss away iconic voice work as if that isn't a defining feature of an audio-visual medium that isn't live action. Nope, who a character is is entirely tied to their ethnicity /sTheKiltdHeathen wrote:Then you're incredibly short-sighted. Anders didn't show up in any of the Halo Wars 2 trailers until the "Know Your Enemy" ViDoc, and in that she's immediately referred to as "Professor". Not only that, but she remains Eurasian in appearance, with black hair and dark brown eyes. Hell, they kept her two facial moles the same. Cutter remains as an aged European man with a straight nose, white (due to age) hair and blue eyes.WerepyreND wrote:It may not be a change in skin color, but I can tell I had no idea that this person was supposed to be Ellen Anders when the Halo Wars 2 trailers started dropping. Cutter also looks very different from his OG Halo Wars appearance. Both Characters have a change in voice actors. Miranda also changed VA's. Truth's VA changed along with his personality. Just to name a few.
Despite changes due to updated capture technology (Halo Wars 1 worked off modeled renders, rather than actor features), who the characters are, visually, did not change. The same goes for Miranda and Truth
There isn't a "point", there doesn't need to be a "point." The characterization of either Keyes is not at all contingent on their ethnicity. If the answer you are fishing for is "for the sake of diversity." Then congrats, I do think that is a fair enough reason on its own. I also think it is perfectly within reason to assume that these two actors could potentially be great at playing those two roles, because again who a character is does not begin and end with the color of their skin.Quote:Only the facial features did not drastically change. But yes, good that you're paying attention here and that the change in ethnicity is the issue.Quote:So if facial features and voices can drastically change, the only thing you seem to draw the line at is ethnicity...
Let me ask you - and I want an answer here, not deflection - what's the point for this change? In your mind, what goal or purpose does this serve? "Why not" or "it's just fiction" are not answers.
Now then please tell me what the "point" was for making these two characters white in the first place?
Apparently I have to tell each of you individually that Johnson is a bad comparison. It would indeed be weird if Bruce Willis was cast to play Al Matthews in Aliens. Whoop de doo.Quote:Yes, it is pandering. Because I refuse to believe that it was so difficult for them to cast the Established Characters properly. Being a good actor means nothing if the character they're being cast for is fundamentally wrong - and to be clear, I would be just as outraged if a white actor was cast as Johnson. Imagine, for a moment, Bruce WIllis as Johnson. It would be just as outrageous and wrong.Quote:Could it be that maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, that the casting directors thought that they were the best actors who auditioned for those parts, but nope, must be "pandering."
Recasting underrepresented minority characters is simply not equivalent to to recasting white characters that were created at a time where "Western" pop sci-fi/ was largely made by and catered almost exclusively to white men(and that still hasn't changed all that much despite improvement on both fronts). Unless you are willing to examine the biases unconscious or not that when into creating these "established characters" in the first place then I honestly don't care about your opinions regarding whether the casting of certain minority groups is regarded as "pandering."