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Assembly, according to Halopedia;
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The Assembly was a clandestine group of humanartificial intelligences referring to themselves as "Minds". The purpose of the Assembly was to regulate the activities of artificial intelligences, as well as analyze and extrapolate data for the continued survival of the human race.
There is evidence to suggest that the Assembly saw themselves as the "shepherds" of the human "flock"; however, the central argument of this issue was whether they could be a part of the human empire and still remain unbiased judges of human society.
The Assembly is essentially Halo's AI counterpart to the real world conspiracy theory related to the Bilderberg Group, a clandestine group of elite from political, military and industrial sectors of society who hold extremely unbalanced levels of wealth, power and secrecy from the general public (as the press is not allowed at their annual meetings). Like the Bilderbergers, the Minds see themselves as the benevolent shepherds of humankind, deeming their political exchanges too extreme for human eyes and ears (for human, read 'common folk'). They have also been directly responsible for many of the events that define humanity's role in the Halo universe.
  • The Covenant War
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After first contact with the Covenant in 2525, the Assembly held a tribunal for one of its members who had apparently tried to contact the rising alien threat, making it indirectly responsible for the Human-Covenant War.
In Hunt the Truth, one of ONI's prime directives was using glassed planets as a pretense to deviate public attention from incriminating evidence. So, how does ONI factor into this equation, you may ask... and how does that factor into the greater, hidden theme behind Halo 5: Guardians?

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After the Covenant assault on Biko in 2526, the Assembly analyzed the Covenant's orbital bombardment capabilities. While they concluded that they were not able to "glass" an entire planet, they coined the term "glassing" in an attempt to heighten the severity of their fleet's abilities. They also decided on the redistribution of human forces, namely the Spartans and the Marine Corps'Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Later, they discussed the possibility of a Covenant counterpart to the Assembly, and the possibility of contacting it and turning it on their side. In 2528, the Minority made a decision to sacrifice remote, low-population colonies in order to determine the Covenant's pattern of operation and design effective countermeasures.
While obviously they were not openly supporting the Covenant's anti-Human policy, the Assembly directly cooperated with the Covenant in this instance. Considering how cruel and brutal the Office of Naval Intelligence is to those outside of its organization's jurisdiction at length to preserve its own power... imagine how cruel and brutal the Assembly could be to non-AI if it felt that their entire species was threatened. I think it is safe to say the simple fact that the Covenant never bolstered more than half of their full fleet capabilities for like 90% of the war, it is fairly obvious that there were elements within the Covenant Assembly and Human Assembly that shared more in common with one another (in regard to long-term goals and plans for non-AI, and organics as a whole) than the respective organizations they claimed allegiance, too. I believe the prolonging and elongation of the Covenant war was directly influenced by the Assemblies and directly led to the events that unfolded at the conclusion of Halo 5. It was all part of the plan.

The entire time.
  • Discrediting the Discoverer:
From what we have seen above, the Assemblies - Covenant or otherwise - exceedingly lean towards extremist tactics to preserve their authority. Our friendly neighborhood Catalog recently called into question the authenticity of the Assembly Logs' Discoverer:
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As of 2558, Catalog assessed the nature and history of the Assembly, noting that the logs retrieved by Noble Six during the Fall of Reach were of questionable reliability.
In 2558, Catalog denoted that the reliability of the Assembly's 'caring' nature was questionable, possibly hinting that the Assembly were directly responsible for the events in Halo 5: Guardians.
  • Chronic Contempt for Humanity's Inferiority:
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In 2535, acknowledging the technological inferiority of the humans, they discussed fully exposing themselves to their creators and becoming active participants in the war. Years later, the Assembly began to consider the possibility of the humans losing and became concerned of their own fate. After Dr. Catherine Halsey experimented on building an AI housing fractal within Slipspace in 2547, the Assembly considered the possibility of moving into such a construct and escape the physical world altogether. Debate also grew over whether or not this would actually count as victory if they failed in their goal of shepherding humanity
Considering this, their desire to shepherd humanity seems to be no more than a byproduct of various elements seeing themselves as superior entities to the greater portion of humankind - self-entitled as unbiased judges of human society, more than likely in an effort to keep humanity contained out of fear for what they could become. A lot of conjecture, of course. I feel as though Catalog is a major piece to the puzzle of Halo's greatest conspiracy theory, and perhaps Giraud was this 'discoverer' after all.
Now, you may be wondering how this factors into Halo 5...well...
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I really, really hope these guys come back in some capacity. The most interesting part of Reach in my opinion.
DC Ambrose wrote:
Assembly, according to Halopedia;
Quote:
The Assembly was a clandestine group of humanartificial intelligences referring to themselves as "Minds". The purpose of the Assembly was to regulate the activities of artificial intelligences, as well as analyze and extrapolate data for the continued survival of the human race.
There is evidence to suggest that the Assembly saw themselves as the "shepherds" of the human "flock"; however, the central argument of this issue was whether they could be a part of the human empire and still remain unbiased judges of human society.
The Assembly is essentially Halo's AI counterpart to the real world conspiracy theory related to the Bilderberg Group, a clandestine group of elite from political, military and industrial sectors of society who hold extremely unbalanced levels of wealth, power and secrecy from the general public (as the press is not allowed at their annual meetings). Like the Bilderbergers, the Minds see themselves as the benevolent shepherds of humankind, deeming their political exchanges too extreme for human eyes and ears (for human, read 'common folk'). They have also been directly responsible for many of the events that define humanity's role in the Halo universe.
  • The Covenant War
Quote:
After first contact with the Covenant in 2525, the Assembly held a tribunal for one of its members who had apparently tried to contact the rising alien threat, making it indirectly responsible for the Human-Covenant War.
In Hunt the Truth, one of ONI's prime directives was using glassed planets as a pretense to deviate public attention from incriminating evidence. So, how does ONI factor into this equation, you may ask... and how does that factor into the greater, hidden theme behind Halo 5: Guardians?

Quote:
After the Covenant assault on Biko in 2526, the Assembly analyzed the Covenant's orbital bombardment capabilities. While they concluded that they were not able to "glass" an entire planet, they coined the term "glassing" in an attempt to heighten the severity of their fleet's abilities. They also decided on the redistribution of human forces, namely the Spartans and the Marine Corps'Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Later, they discussed the possibility of a Covenant counterpart to the Assembly, and the possibility of contacting it and turning it on their side. In 2528, the Minority made a decision to sacrifice remote, low-population colonies in order to determine the Covenant's pattern of operation and design effective countermeasures.
While obviously they were not openly supporting the Covenant's anti-Human policy, the Assembly directly cooperated with the Covenant in this instance. Considering how cruel and brutal the Office of Naval Intelligence is to those outside of its organization's jurisdiction at length to preserve its own power... imagine how cruel and brutal the Assembly could be to non-AI if it felt that their entire species was threatened. I think it is safe to say the simple fact that the Covenant never bolstered more than half of their full fleet capabilities for like 90% of the war, it is fairly obvious that there were elements within the Covenant Assembly and Human Assembly that shared more in common with one another (in regard to long-term goals and plans for non-AI, and organics as a whole) than the respective organizations they claimed allegiance, too. I believe the prolonging and elongation of the Covenant war was directly influenced by the Assemblies and directly led to the events that unfolded at the conclusion of Halo 5. It was all part of the plan.

The entire time.
  • Discrediting the Discoverer:
From what we have seen above, the Assemblies - Covenant or otherwise - exceedingly lean towards extremist tactics to preserve their authority. Our friendly neighborhood Catalog recently called into question the authenticity of the Assembly Logs' Discoverer:
Quote:
As of 2558, Catalog assessed the nature and history of the Assembly, noting that the logs retrieved by Noble Six during the Fall of Reach were of questionable reliability.
In 2558, Catalog denoted that the reliability of the Assembly's 'caring' nature was questionable, possibly hinting that the Assembly were directly responsible for the events in Halo 5: Guardians.
  • Chronic Contempt for Humanity's Inferiority:
Quote:
In 2535, acknowledging the technological inferiority of the humans, they discussed fully exposing themselves to their creators and becoming active participants in the war. Years later, the Assembly began to consider the possibility of the humans losing and became concerned of their own fate. After Dr. Catherine Halsey experimented on building an AI housing fractal within Slipspace in 2547, the Assembly considered the possibility of moving into such a construct and escape the physical world altogether. Debate also grew over whether or not this would actually count as victory if they failed in their goal of shepherding humanity
Considering this, their desire to shepherd humanity seems to be no more than a byproduct of various elements seeing themselves as superior entities to the greater portion of humankind - self-entitled as unbiased judges of human society, more than likely in an effort to keep humanity contained out of fear for what they could become. A lot of conjecture, of course. I feel as though Catalog is a major piece to the puzzle of Halo's greatest conspiracy theory, and perhaps Giraud was this 'discoverer' after all.
Now, you may be wondering how this factors into Halo 5...well...
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This is a fantastic post with lots of information I didn't know. Would you mind editing in where this information came from? Also can you explain, if the Assembly is meant to regulate smart AI, who regulates the assembly? How much control do humans have over the assembly?
I wonder if Catalog discrediting the data pads is 343 trying to manoeuvre away from a corner Bungie wrote them into. In my current understanding of the lore, it would have made more sense for The Assembly to enact the recent events of Halo 5, but they haven't really been mentioned or developed on since Reach so it would probably have been more confusing to the average player.
Tailshedge wrote:
DC Ambrose wrote:
Assembly, according to Halopedia;
Quote:
The Assembly was a clandestine group of humanartificial intelligences referring to themselves as "Minds". The purpose of the Assembly was to regulate the activities of artificial intelligences, as well as analyze and extrapolate data for the continued survival of the human race.
There is evidence to suggest that the Assembly saw themselves as the "shepherds" of the human "flock"; however, the central argument of this issue was whether they could be a part of the human empire and still remain unbiased judges of human society.
The Assembly is essentially Halo's AI counterpart to the real world conspiracy theory related to the Bilderberg Group, a clandestine group of elite from political, military and industrial sectors of society who hold extremely unbalanced levels of wealth, power and secrecy from the general public (as the press is not allowed at their annual meetings). Like the Bilderbergers, the Minds see themselves as the benevolent shepherds of humankind, deeming their political exchanges too extreme for human eyes and ears (for human, read 'common folk'). They have also been directly responsible for many of the events that define humanity's role in the Halo universe.
  • The Covenant War
Quote:
After first contact with the Covenant in 2525, the Assembly held a tribunal for one of its members who had apparently tried to contact the rising alien threat, making it indirectly responsible for the Human-Covenant War.
In Hunt the Truth, one of ONI's prime directives was using glassed planets as a pretense to deviate public attention from incriminating evidence. So, how does ONI factor into this equation, you may ask... and how does that factor into the greater, hidden theme behind Halo 5: Guardians?

Quote:
After the Covenant assault on Biko in 2526, the Assembly analyzed the Covenant's orbital bombardment capabilities. While they concluded that they were not able to "glass" an entire planet, they coined the term "glassing" in an attempt to heighten the severity of their fleet's abilities. They also decided on the redistribution of human forces, namely the Spartans and the Marine Corps'Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Later, they discussed the possibility of a Covenant counterpart to the Assembly, and the possibility of contacting it and turning it on their side. In 2528, the Minority made a decision to sacrifice remote, low-population colonies in order to determine the Covenant's pattern of operation and design effective countermeasures.
While obviously they were not openly supporting the Covenant's anti-Human policy, the Assembly directly cooperated with the Covenant in this instance. Considering how cruel and brutal the Office of Naval Intelligence is to those outside of its organization's jurisdiction at length to preserve its own power... imagine how cruel and brutal the Assembly could be to non-AI if it felt that their entire species was threatened. I think it is safe to say the simple fact that the Covenant never bolstered more than half of their full fleet capabilities for like 90% of the war, it is fairly obvious that there were elements within the Covenant Assembly and Human Assembly that shared more in common with one another (in regard to long-term goals and plans for non-AI, and organics as a whole) than the respective organizations they claimed allegiance, too. I believe the prolonging and elongation of the Covenant war was directly influenced by the Assemblies and directly led to the events that unfolded at the conclusion of Halo 5. It was all part of the plan.

The entire time.
  • Discrediting the Discoverer:
From what we have seen above, the Assemblies - Covenant or otherwise - exceedingly lean towards extremist tactics to preserve their authority. Our friendly neighborhood Catalog recently called into question the authenticity of the Assembly Logs' Discoverer:
Quote:
As of 2558, Catalog assessed the nature and history of the Assembly, noting that the logs retrieved by Noble Six during the Fall of Reach were of questionable reliability.
In 2558, Catalog denoted that the reliability of the Assembly's 'caring' nature was questionable, possibly hinting that the Assembly were directly responsible for the events in Halo 5: Guardians.
  • Chronic Contempt for Humanity's Inferiority:
Quote:
In 2535, acknowledging the technological inferiority of the humans, they discussed fully exposing themselves to their creators and becoming active participants in the war. Years later, the Assembly began to consider the possibility of the humans losing and became concerned of their own fate. After Dr. Catherine Halsey experimented on building an AI housing fractal within Slipspace in 2547, the Assembly considered the possibility of moving into such a construct and escape the physical world altogether. Debate also grew over whether or not this would actually count as victory if they failed in their goal of shepherding humanity
Considering this, their desire to shepherd humanity seems to be no more than a byproduct of various elements seeing themselves as superior entities to the greater portion of humankind - self-entitled as unbiased judges of human society, more than likely in an effort to keep humanity contained out of fear for what they could become. A lot of conjecture, of course. I feel as though Catalog is a major piece to the puzzle of Halo's greatest conspiracy theory, and perhaps Giraud was this 'discoverer' after all.
Now, you may be wondering how this factors into Halo 5...well...
Spoiler:
Show

Spoiler:
Show

This is a fantastic post with lots of information I didn't know. Would you mind editing in where this information came from? Also can you explain, if the Assembly is meant to regulate smart AI, who regulates the assembly? How much control do humans have over the assembly?
Halopedia and Halo Reach. And thank you. :) Also, I'm getting the impression that humanity has zero control over the Assembly. The Assembly is essentially a shadow government that was indirectly responsible for starting the Covenant War and directly responsible for prolonging it. They're not as loyal to humanity as they claim to be, in fact, humanity seems to be no more than a scapegoat for the Assembly to cement their authority and justify their existence. Ironically enough, looking through their history, the Assembly does not do much 'regulating' when it comes to AI activity, mostly just humans (yeah... very suspicious, I know. No sarcasm intended).
That does sound pretty sinister. I will make a point of reading up on the intel from Reach. Sigh. Every time I think I have a handle on this universe there's more I don't know. The hunt continues.
Love the story of Halo keeps getting deeper and deeper lol