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Who is Stronger Spartan II Or Spartan IV

OP Conor5017

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The Spartan II's do outmatch the IV's, and yes it is true that with armour on, the IV's are pretty on par with the II's in terms of strength and speed (I'd say the II's get a slight advantage due to their more rigorous augmentations) but these points are not what truly separates them. Spartan IV's are adults, mostly with military backgrounds, volunteers to be made Spartans. Men and women with memories of a life once lived, feeling and emotions of family, friends, lovers and still have these same feelings after augmentation. Spartan II's were abducted at 6 years of age, hand picked due to genetics. Indoctrinated before even becoming old enough to discover who they really are, developing their own personality. Their entire lives going through rigorous military training to be the best of the best, to win against all odds and to be fearless. The Spartan II's are the personification of war. War is all they have and will ever know. That's what truly separates them from the IV's.
Probably the lls
Spartan IVs are pretty good, but the IIs has to be the winner.
THE SPARTAN II'S ARE DEFINETLY STRONGER PHYSICALLY AND THEY WOULD BEAT THE SPARTAN IV'S IN A FIGHT. In Halo 4 the master chief can easily take down the Spartan IV's if your one of those guys that likes to turn on his fellow UNSC soldiers.
spartan IIs are generally better also the under-suits for spartan IVs are said to make them on par with spartan IIs in their gen 1 armor
and spartan IIs upgraded to gen 2 armor so they're still way stronger than spartan IVs
Out of armor, the Spartan IIs would destroy the Spartan IVs. In their own Gen's armor, the IIs would have a slight edge. If they were both in Gen2 Spartan IV armor, IIs would crush them. The fact is, Spartan IVs aren't really Spartans. They are elite soldiers given augmentations and advanced equipment. But they don't have the skillset or more importantly, the mindset of a Spartan. They can't be physically and mentally pushed as far. The childhood training and indoctrination made them SPARTANS. Unyielding. Relentless. Fighting until the moment of death. Grim determination. Inhuman. Spartan IVs are still human, and don't have the same mental elasticity. For SIIs, everything was in the context of combat. They see things without the context of humanity, granting them complete control of self, mental and physical. SIVs have not been through that crucible that lets them push beyond the limits of their own mortality.
A 2 is much stronger due to nature of their augmentations. Combine that with gen 1 and 3 armour and they are easily more powerful than a 4
Simply put, Spartan IV's make up for pure brute force and experience with quick thinking and resourcefulness. However, without armor, or even with armor, Spartan II's would stomp the IV's out, this is mostly due to their augmentations, now the IV's may have a couple of augmentations here and there, but they're no where near the level of the II's. The first Spartan II batch lost over 35% of its candidates to these augmentations, and with others becoming crippled. Then there's the training that you have to take into account, the IV's were previous ODST's with good training, but compared to the II's training it was nothing. The II's were kidnapped at the ages of six and trained for years through grueling training. And the fact that the II's received their augmentations during their puberty years, would be a reason why they are so extremely strong, fast, tall etc. IV's were augmented when they were older, when they were more developed. The II's are superhuman, the IV's somewhat superhuman. In a 1v1 combat scenario, a II would wipe the floor with the IV. The IV's are the discount II's and III's sadly. They were created to increase the number of Spartans. They are basically quantity over quality. If you disagree or agree tell me what you think.
obviously the 2s.
Firstly they were already genetically superior to other kids to begin with, stronger, smarter, faster etc. The 4s were not
They also had intense training since they were 6, 4s did not. The 4s are just regular soldiers with augmentations and Mjölnir
I'm not sure why recent posts are claiming that a Spartan-II is stronger than a Spartan-IV when we've had a demonstrable example of that not being the case, on top of numerous statements saying that a Spartan-IV is equal in capabilities to a Spartan-II in armor.

Spartan-IVs wouldn't be floored nor destroyed by a Spartan-II in regards to strength and speed. Other factors can be debated, however.
IIs. They show perfect syncronization with ancient human armor and the IVs need augmentations or time to sync up. IIs are taller, stronger, & faster out of the suit.
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Sin duda alguna de los Spartans ll (Mas altos, mas fuertes, mas rapidos, mejor entrenados)
I have a slightly different look on this, on the battlefield, IV's are stronger because they are treated more as tools to be sent to do very hard tasks, 2's are like your last resort, you dont have many, but they will get whatever needs done done
Spartan-IIs are certainly stronger when it comes to raw, physical strength. Despite technically being less powerful than a II; when paired with their gen-2 armor, S-IVs are about as strong as a S-II in gen-1, but a S-II in gen-2 will be considerably stronger. However, what Spartan-IVs lack in strength they make up for with resourcefulness and grit, traits that the Master Chief himself found admirable.
Spartan ll
Spartan-IIs are certainly stronger when it comes to raw, physical strength. Despite technically being less powerful than a II; when paired with their gen-2 armor, S-IVs are about as strong as a S-II in gen-1, but a S-II in gen-2 will be considerably stronger. However, what Spartan-IVs lack in strength they make up for with resourcefulness and grit, traits that the Master Chief himself found admirable.
As time has gone on, Frank O'Conner's statement in 2012 of how a "Spartan-IV in GEN2 is equal to a Spartan-II in GEN1" seems to have been clarified, or altered to mean that a Spartan-IV is equal to a Spartan-II in Mjolnir armor, irrelevant of what armor is being used.

Halo 5 demonstrates a Spartan-IV and Spartan-II in combat without a clear-cut strength advantage. Also, The Official Spartan Field Manual, page 178 states,

"Although a flexible platform, some in the Spartan branch are dissatisfied with its minimal performance improvement over decades-old GEN1 systems."It doesn't appear as though the Spartan-IIs get a strength boost when outfitted with newer GEN2.
S-IIs are stronger. No question about that
The twos are definitely stronger and better trained. However Installation 00 states that the Gen 2 mjolnir actually nerfs the spartan 2s abilities. So in Gen2 they are the same in strength but not in skill. Spartan 2s in gen 1 or no armor are stronger. Gen 2 has artificial muscle and has a limit, however gen 1 multiplies the users strength. Since the 2s are augmented better they are stronger naturally. So in Gen 1, Chief would take out locke in a single swing.
The twos are definitely stronger and better trained. However Installation 00 states that the Gen 2 mjolnir actually nerfs the spartan 2s abilities. So in Gen2 they are the same in strength but not in skill. Spartan 2s in gen 1 or no armor are stronger. Gen 2 has artificial muscle and has a limit, however gen 1 multiplies the users strength. Since the 2s are augmented better they are stronger naturally. So in Gen 1, Chief would take out locke in a single swing.
I'm not sure how he concluded that the Spartan-IIs were nerfed. If anything, the Spartan-IVs are considerably buffed while the Spartan-IIs simply plateau from GEN1 to GEN2.
The Official Spartan Field Manual states that GEN2 armor operates around the same effectiveness as GEN1, so the Spartan-IIs aren't worse off for using it. It appears as though GEN1 Mark VI is the benchmark for Mjolnir, as improvements with various armor permutations and generations have been focused on shielding, weight and cost reductions. It looks as though going above that threshold could be detrimental to the suit.

Also, the polymuscle of the techsuit amplifies the user's strength, it doesn't do all the work itself. With the information we've been given, it looks as though the limit for the GEN2 techsuit is the same as GEN1.
Spartan IIs
The IVs are nothing without their armor
We all saw what happened with Thorne vs Gek.
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