Steeped pretty deeply in your bias there, aren't you? No, we've pointedly refuted your main gripes regarding the Spartan-IVs.Archon Vaxal wrote:I have read and re-read my posts on this Thread and the responses I've gotten, and every time that I've gone over it, I am more and more convinced that not a single response to any of what I've said has actually tackled any of my main points. All of my detractors have simply picked at small mistakes I've made, rather than actually engaging my real points.
As such: I'll count this as a win by technicality on my part.
- You claimed they didn't earn the title because they most likely didn't have any loss, any hardship occur in their lives; cushy, easy-going and simply survived due to luck. When that was refuted, your response was "well, you see, that wasn't special", as though going through trauma needs a unique tier list. They earned their title by enlisting, fighting, and surviving the most brutal war in human history. I'm sure you'll continue to ignore this fact simply on the premise 'but weren't child soldiers'.
- You also asserted that they probably didn't see much action in the war; most likely just sitting on some far-flung ship somewhere, not in the foxholes and trenches. When that was refuted it became "well, you see, maybe I made a tiny mistake" when it's a considerable difference.
- You then asserted that they "collectively act like frat-boys", and could barely muster a solid enough argument that you felt Grant was simultaneously one while also completely without character.
You can make lip-service with statements like
But in actuality you do not. You came into this thread with a set conclusion on what they were and what they represented. You didn't have a modicum of open-mindedness to see what the Spartan-IVs might actually be. Every response was immediately shot down or new criteria made to discredit them. That is not someone who wants to have an open discussion. You seem to have taken affront to any replies as apparently it was some grand conspiracy as to why I 'went out of my way to make an argument' or 'trying to make you feel defeated' or giving you 'snide remarks and insults'. These are things you've conjured in your own mind and detract from the discussion.Quote:I want to like the 4s
You even felt the need to come back to the topic a week later simply to say "I won". When you disregard what everyone else has to say, I'm sure you would consider that a "win".