[Locked] Reduce aim assist on MCC PC

S1imothyJ wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

D dawgy wrote:

Evil Twin 1 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

Terg500 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

bam9762 wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Slickini wrote:

General Fox wrote:

KnightFJS wrote:

DeplorablACE wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Wonder if people realize that when Halo CE and the other games come out they're going to have the same Aim Assist that Reach has since all the games will be supporting both KBM and Controllers. There's absolutely no way Reach is going to be the only game with it when they feel that it's a necessity for Reach to have...

If that's the case, the game is good as dead.

Just thinking about that now, it really is the best course of action to remove aim assist entirely from Halo. People need to learn how to aim and not have a crutch doing all the work for them.

Toned now, maybe. Removed entirely, not gonna happen:

"Aim Assist / Controller vs. M+KB
We are continuing to investigate ways we can improve this for players on PC while still retaining the necessary functionality for controller players. We know there’s been a lot of feedback around this across the community and we are definitely listening and digging into this on our end. Investigations and discussions are underway internally but we do not have a timeline we can commit to or more information to share quite yet.
The patch we released this week does address an issue that should improve the input performance and experience for M+KB players. We’re eager to hear the community’s feedback, please let us know how this change feels for you."

343 see it as a necessity for Controller players here:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-december-2019

If it is REALLY a necessity, then the best-case scenario is to disable it on ranked playlists or implement opt-out options.

If they're interested in Cross Play between consoles and PC in the future, then I doubt they'd consider opt-out options as that would go against the purpose of crossplay. I don't think they'll consider disabling it for ranked either as it's intended to balance out the unfair advantage KBM have against controllers with better precision. The only potential option ( outside of tweaking it to tone it down ) would probably be disabling it, but nerfing KBM so that aiming is more sluggest perhaps and less precise to balance it out instead.

lol by the time cross play is actually functional, the actual player base will be the original controller population playing against each other, either on their PC or Xbox.

Yep. Imagine putting time and effort into porting a game to a whole new platform, only to get the same people playing it as before.

Unless that was their plan from the very beginning. 🤔🤔

I do believe 343i is very incompetent. But I don't think they are stupid. So I doubt that's what they had in mind.

Nope they are stupid. Well at least the ones in charge. This was a predicable disaster. Bonnie Ross needs to go.

It seems that women in prominent positions at big name development companies are more focused on dismantling stereotypes in games, rather than producing quality products.

Yikes, guy. That's a pretty gamer thing to say. I think you're analysing the wrong issues here. I would shut the -Yoink- up and save face.Assuming something about someone purely because they are a woman. Who hurt you?

S1imothyJ wrote:

luke5135 wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

D dawgy wrote:

Evil Twin 1 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

Terg500 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

bam9762 wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Slickini wrote:

General Fox wrote:

KnightFJS wrote:

DeplorablACE wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Wonder if people realize that when Halo CE and the other games come out they're going to have the same Aim Assist that Reach has since all the games will be supporting both KBM and Controllers. There's absolutely no way Reach is going to be the only game with it when they feel that it's a necessity for Reach to have...

If that's the case, the game is good as dead.

Just thinking about that now, it really is the best course of action to remove aim assist entirely from Halo. People need to learn how to aim and not have a crutch doing all the work for them.

Toned now, maybe. Removed entirely, not gonna happen:

"Aim Assist / Controller vs. M+KB
We are continuing to investigate ways we can improve this for players on PC while still retaining the necessary functionality for controller players. We know there’s been a lot of feedback around this across the community and we are definitely listening and digging into this on our end. Investigations and discussions are underway internally but we do not have a timeline we can commit to or more information to share quite yet.
The patch we released this week does address an issue that should improve the input performance and experience for M+KB players. We’re eager to hear the community’s feedback, please let us know how this change feels for you."

343 see it as a necessity for Controller players here:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-december-2019

If it is REALLY a necessity, then the best-case scenario is to disable it on ranked playlists or implement opt-out options.

If they're interested in Cross Play between consoles and PC in the future, then I doubt they'd consider opt-out options as that would go against the purpose of crossplay. I don't think they'll consider disabling it for ranked either as it's intended to balance out the unfair advantage KBM have against controllers with better precision. The only potential option ( outside of tweaking it to tone it down ) would probably be disabling it, but nerfing KBM so that aiming is more sluggest perhaps and less precise to balance it out instead.

lol by the time cross play is actually functional, the actual player base will be the original controller population playing against each other, either on their PC or Xbox.

Yep. Imagine putting time and effort into porting a game to a whole new platform, only to get the same people playing it as before.

Unless that was their plan from the very beginning. 🤔🤔

I do believe 343i is very incompetent. But I don't think they are stupid. So I doubt that's what they had in mind.

Nope they are stupid. Well at least the ones in charge. This was a predicable disaster. Bonnie Ross needs to go.

It seems that women in prominent positions at big name development companies are more focused on dismantling stereotypes in games, rather than producing quality products.

Yikes, guy. That's a pretty gamer thing to say. I think you're analysing the wrong issues here. I would shut the -Yoink- up and save face.

I see nothing wrong with it you delicate little soul ;)

I am sure he is sorry if he hurt your feelings...

Truth can be tough sometimes.

Assuming something about someone purely because they are a woman. Who hurt you?

I think what he meansd to say is "have little faith in 343 due to the person in charge not overall being in touch with the pc community, and not being willing to broaden their horizons and possibly leave controllerp layers on console." i'm not sure but I really do not care.

Ah yes but that would be intelligent and constructive thought. He was very obviously leaning on something bigger, though I completely agree with you.

PentatonicSteel wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

D dawgy wrote:

Evil Twin 1 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

Terg500 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

bam9762 wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Slickini wrote:

General Fox wrote:

KnightFJS wrote:

DeplorablACE wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Wonder if people realize that when Halo CE and the other games come out they're going to have the same Aim Assist that Reach has since all the games will be supporting both KBM and Controllers. There's absolutely no way Reach is going to be the only game with it when they feel that it's a necessity for Reach to have...

If that's the case, the game is good as dead.

Just thinking about that now, it really is the best course of action to remove aim assist entirely from Halo. People need to learn how to aim and not have a crutch doing all the work for them.

Toned now, maybe. Removed entirely, not gonna happen:

"Aim Assist / Controller vs. M+KB
We are continuing to investigate ways we can improve this for players on PC while still retaining the necessary functionality for controller players. We know there’s been a lot of feedback around this across the community and we are definitely listening and digging into this on our end. Investigations and discussions are underway internally but we do not have a timeline we can commit to or more information to share quite yet.
The patch we released this week does address an issue that should improve the input performance and experience for M+KB players. We’re eager to hear the community’s feedback, please let us know how this change feels for you."

343 see it as a necessity for Controller players here:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-december-2019

If it is REALLY a necessity, then the best-case scenario is to disable it on ranked playlists or implement opt-out options.

If they're interested in Cross Play between consoles and PC in the future, then I doubt they'd consider opt-out options as that would go against the purpose of crossplay. I don't think they'll consider disabling it for ranked either as it's intended to balance out the unfair advantage KBM have against controllers with better precision. The only potential option ( outside of tweaking it to tone it down ) would probably be disabling it, but nerfing KBM so that aiming is more sluggest perhaps and less precise to balance it out instead.

lol by the time cross play is actually functional, the actual player base will be the original controller population playing against each other, either on their PC or Xbox.

Yep. Imagine putting time and effort into porting a game to a whole new platform, only to get the same people playing it as before.

Unless that was their plan from the very beginning. 🤔🤔

I do believe 343i is very incompetent. But I don't think they are stupid. So I doubt that's what they had in mind.

Nope they are stupid. Well at least the ones in charge. This was a predicable disaster. Bonnie Ross needs to go.

It seems that women in prominent positions at big name development companies are more focused on dismantling stereotypes in games, rather than producing quality products.

Yikes, guy. That's a pretty gamer thing to say. I think you're analysing the wrong issues here. I would shut the -Yoink- up and save face.

Assuming something about someone purely because they are a woman. Who hurt you? I know she's commented on diversity before, but that doesn't make her any less competent within the industry...

xx Sheldor 5 xx wrote:

SafeCargo862986 wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

McSwaggur wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

Gamepads belong on consoles.
They should forget about cross play and disable all aim assist for pc. That or have a "notice" when someone is entering crossplay mode that their aim assist is disabled.
Watch the gamepad scrubs quickly jump to k+m without argument then lol.

Sorry to break it to you buddy but controller AA isn't going anywhere. So sorry

I bet it is ;)
That or m+k get AA as well.
Back to console for you.

Then everyone would use m&kb and crossplay would be deeply unfair for console players if crossplay happens

no it would be fair, just like in Apex, Fortnite, CoD, etc. .....

SafeCargo862986 wrote:

xx Sheldor 5 xx wrote:

SafeCargo862986 wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

McSwaggur wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

Gamepads belong on consoles.
They should forget about cross play and disable all aim assist for pc. That or have a "notice" when someone is entering crossplay mode that their aim assist is disabled.
Watch the gamepad scrubs quickly jump to k+m without argument then lol.

Sorry to break it to you buddy but controller AA isn't going anywhere. So sorry

I bet it is ;)
That or m+k get AA as well.
Back to console for you.

Then everyone would use m&kb and crossplay would be deeply unfair for console players if crossplay happens

no it would be fair, just like in Apex, Fortnite, CoD, etc. .....

You high? M&k has soooo many advantages over console players it's ridiculous. It isn't fair at all.

luke5135 wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

luke5135 wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

PentatonicSteel wrote:

S1imothyJ wrote:

D dawgy wrote:

Evil Twin 1 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

Terg500 wrote:

AlexW955842 wrote:

bam9762 wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Slickini wrote:

General Fox wrote:

KnightFJS wrote:

DeplorablACE wrote:

General Fox wrote:

Wonder if people realize that when Halo CE and the other games come out they're going to have the same Aim Assist that Reach has since all the games will be supporting both KBM and Controllers. There's absolutely no way Reach is going to be the only game with it when they feel that it's a necessity for Reach to have...

If that's the case, the game is good as dead.

Just thinking about that now, it really is the best course of action to remove aim assist entirely from Halo. People need to learn how to aim and not have a crutch doing all the work for them.

Toned now, maybe. Removed entirely, not gonna happen:

"Aim Assist / Controller vs. M+KB
We are continuing to investigate ways we can improve this for players on PC while still retaining the necessary functionality for controller players. We know there’s been a lot of feedback around this across the community and we are definitely listening and digging into this on our end. Investigations and discussions are underway internally but we do not have a timeline we can commit to or more information to share quite yet.
The patch we released this week does address an issue that should improve the input performance and experience for M+KB players. We’re eager to hear the community’s feedback, please let us know how this change feels for you."

343 see it as a necessity for Controller players here:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-december-2019

If it is REALLY a necessity, then the best-case scenario is to disable it on ranked playlists or implement opt-out options.

If they're interested in Cross Play between consoles and PC in the future, then I doubt they'd consider opt-out options as that would go against the purpose of crossplay. I don't think they'll consider disabling it for ranked either as it's intended to balance out the unfair advantage KBM have against controllers with better precision. The only potential option ( outside of tweaking it to tone it down ) would probably be disabling it, but nerfing KBM so that aiming is more sluggest perhaps and less precise to balance it out instead.

lol by the time cross play is actually functional, the actual player base will be the original controller population playing against each other, either on their PC or Xbox.

Yep. Imagine putting time and effort into porting a game to a whole new platform, only to get the same people playing it as before.

Unless that was their plan from the very beginning. 🤔🤔

I do believe 343i is very incompetent. But I don't think they are stupid. So I doubt that's what they had in mind.

Nope they are stupid. Well at least the ones in charge. This was a predicable disaster. Bonnie Ross needs to go.

It seems that women in prominent positions at big name development companies are more focused on dismantling stereotypes in games, rather than producing quality products.

Yikes, guy. That's a pretty gamer thing to say. I think you're analysing the wrong issues here. I would shut the -Yoink- up and save face.

I see nothing wrong with it you delicate little soul ;)

I am sure he is sorry if he hurt your feelings...

Truth can be tough sometimes.

Assuming something about someone purely because they are a woman. Who hurt you?

I think what he meansd to say is "have little faith in 343 due to the person in charge not overall being in touch with the pc community, and not being willing to broaden their horizons and possibly leave controllerp layers on console." i'm not sure but I really do not care.

Ah yes but that would be intelligent and constructive thought. He was very obviously leaning on something bigger, though I completely agree with you.

As I see it, I think for osmoene who is in control of a gaming company they should have a legitimate passion for gaming, I simply don't believe the current leaders of 343 have that passion and drive, look at people like phil spencer he has PASSION and drive.