OP Jonald5446
When did it get annoying? Was it before or after aim assist made everyone quit Reach?Bio Goji 1989 wrote:I was referring to multiplayer and the entire collection, not just CE. Reach, CE, H2, H3, H4... the whole shebang. And honestly... I just find it annoying when see people say "Reach sux cuz aim assist for controllers!" It was funny at first, but now it's just annoying.
well Kephrii won a 10k tourney playing MKB... so not sure what kind of pros you are watching play, but he didn't have any problemJonald5446 wrote:Hello, I am desperately begging for someone to notice these cries. Aim assist on MCC PC currently is heavily favoring controller players and KB + M players are at a clear disadvantage. This is not me being whiny, this is a well documented case by many pro players and other members of the community. Other games have realized this problem and corrected. PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC OR GROUP CONTROLLER USERS WITH EACH OTHER. It is really unfair, and as someone who has been waiting 10 years to play halo on PC like this, it is super disappointing to know that I am at a huge disadvantage online. All the console kids got it on PC because its the superior version, and my FPS skills from other games dont even matter against the legion of auto aimers.
PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC. STOP PENALIZING PLAYERS FOR USING KB + M
https://m.twitch.tv/kephrii/clip/RoughClumsyPassionfruitSMOrcHes on twitch talking about how much aim assist there is on controllers, hes using one, so i guess he adapted?Silver Delorean wrote:well Kephrii won a 10k tourney playing MKB... so not sure what kind of pros you are watching play, but he didn't have any problemJonald5446 wrote:Hello, I am desperately begging for someone to notice these cries. Aim assist on MCC PC currently is heavily favoring controller players and KB + M players are at a clear disadvantage. This is not me being whiny, this is a well documented case by many pro players and other members of the community. Other games have realized this problem and corrected. PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC OR GROUP CONTROLLER USERS WITH EACH OTHER. It is really unfair, and as someone who has been waiting 10 years to play halo on PC like this, it is super disappointing to know that I am at a huge disadvantage online. All the console kids got it on PC because its the superior version, and my FPS skills from other games dont even matter against the legion of auto aimers.
PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC. STOP PENALIZING PLAYERS FOR USING KB + M
I'm not saying it isn't crappy. Does it lower the game's skill cap? Absolutely. But are they going to do anything about it? Absolutely not, they are trying to move towards crossplay.
I personally think that there is no truth in being "disadvantaged" as an MKB player. You have to deal with cheaters on competitive ladder games all the time and cheaters still get sacked because they are trash at the game. Just because someone else is playing ridiculously good does not mean that you cannot try to improve yourself. Everything in this game moves so slowly, the fastest moving thing in reach are diving jackals, grunts and elites that are performing evasive manuevers with inhuman reaction time which is something players do not get access to.
i'm not sure but it was in early-ish mid januarySafetyM33ting wrote:https://m.twitch.tv/kephrii/clip/RoughClumsyPassionfruitSMOrcHes on twitch talking about how much aim assist there is on controllers, hes using one, so i guess he adapted?
Or did every player have to use mouse and keyboard in the tourney he won? Which tourney?
After reach launched and everyone kept whining and moaning about how competitive is dead, as if competitive multiplayer is the only reason for any game to exist in their minds. It was funny before launch because the game hadn't even been released.SalvoFatts wrote:When did it get annoying? Was it before or after aim assist made everyone quit Reach?Bio Goji 1989 wrote:I was referring to multiplayer and the entire collection, not just CE. Reach, CE, H2, H3, H4... the whole shebang. And honestly... I just find it annoying when see people say "Reach sux cuz aim assist for controllers!" It was funny at first, but now it's just annoying.
I think the vast majority of players play social and not competitive. Hence the reason competitive matchmaking takes much longer than any social matchmaking. I personally play social because:Matt Grimes FTL wrote:Bio Goji 1989 wrote:I don't play competitive. I play social... for fun.KnightFJS wrote:That's why 343 has to put input based matchmaking. It's not fun losing just because crybaby controller players believe aimbot is a balanced mechanic and they think deserve to win with it.Bio Goji 1989 wrote:For one final note to all people who complain about Aim Assist... in order for the game to have aim assist reduced or changed, 343 would have to go into the .map file of every single map and mission and edit the weapon aim assist properties of every single weapon tag in each map, one by one. This is not going to happen. Aim Assist exists in the game, and it's not going away. Live with it.
Makes you wonder why the competitive gamemode completely died out in less than a month.
If you don't have extremely good/consistent aim all the time then you are at a disadvantage. So many casual, pro, and veteran players claim it is broken and it has been thoroughly tested by multiple people.Silver Delorean wrote:well Kephrii won a 10k tourney playing MKB... so not sure what kind of pros you are watching play, but he didn't have any problemJonald5446 wrote:Hello, I am desperately begging for someone to notice these cries. Aim assist on MCC PC currently is heavily favoring controller players and KB + M players are at a clear disadvantage. This is not me being whiny, this is a well documented case by many pro players and other members of the community. Other games have realized this problem and corrected. PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC OR GROUP CONTROLLER USERS WITH EACH OTHER. It is really unfair, and as someone who has been waiting 10 years to play halo on PC like this, it is super disappointing to know that I am at a huge disadvantage online. All the console kids got it on PC because its the superior version, and my FPS skills from other games dont even matter against the legion of auto aimers.
PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC. STOP PENALIZING PLAYERS FOR USING KB + M
I'm not saying it isn't crappy. Does it lower the game's skill cap? Absolutely. But are they going to do anything about it? Absolutely not, they are trying to move towards crossplay.
I personally think that there is no truth in being "disadvantaged" as an MKB player. You have to deal with cheaters on competitive ladder games all the time and cheaters still get sacked because they are trash at the game. Just because someone else is playing ridiculously good does not mean that you cannot try to improve yourself. Everything in this game moves so slowly, the fastest moving thing in reach are diving jackals, grunts and elites that are performing evasive manuevers with inhuman reaction time which is something players do not get access to.
I agree, when i played on the original CE(PC), i Believe we had an option to match make with or with out Aim assist.ResTheFallen wrote:Option for aim assist disabled matchmaking. Effectively does the same thing.redarmy101 wrote:How would the grouping work? Right now you can in game be on K+M and then in the same match seamlessly switch to controller. It would be a mistake in my opinion to take away that seamless integration because it is nice to be able to drive with a controller rather than K+M.
Because they aren't going to change it.KnightFJS wrote:If you don't have extremely good/consistent aim all the time then you are at a disadvantage. So many casual, pro, and veteran players claim it is broken and it has been thoroughly tested by multiple people.Silver Delorean wrote:well Kephrii won a 10k tourney playing MKB... so not sure what kind of pros you are watching play, but he didn't have any problemJonald5446 wrote:Hello, I am desperately begging for someone to notice these cries. Aim assist on MCC PC currently is heavily favoring controller players and KB + M players are at a clear disadvantage. This is not me being whiny, this is a well documented case by many pro players and other members of the community. Other games have realized this problem and corrected. PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC OR GROUP CONTROLLER USERS WITH EACH OTHER. It is really unfair, and as someone who has been waiting 10 years to play halo on PC like this, it is super disappointing to know that I am at a huge disadvantage online. All the console kids got it on PC because its the superior version, and my FPS skills from other games dont even matter against the legion of auto aimers.
PLEASE REDUCE THE EFFECT OF AIM ASSIST ON MCC PC. STOP PENALIZING PLAYERS FOR USING KB + M
I'm not saying it isn't crappy. Does it lower the game's skill cap? Absolutely. But are they going to do anything about it? Absolutely not, they are trying to move towards crossplay.
I personally think that there is no truth in being "disadvantaged" as an MKB player. You have to deal with cheaters on competitive ladder games all the time and cheaters still get sacked because they are trash at the game. Just because someone else is playing ridiculously good does not mean that you cannot try to improve yourself. Everything in this game moves so slowly, the fastest moving thing in reach are diving jackals, grunts and elites that are performing evasive manuevers with inhuman reaction time which is something players do not get access to.
I'm not sure why people still try to argue this when everyone from the competent side of the community agrees AA is a problem.
There will be no top teams with MKB and I predict this will be the first and last Reach PC tournament.D dawgy wrote:Dreamhack Anaheim is Feb 21-23 and will feature Halo Reach on PC. I assume it will be a live broadcast. I am eager to see how many controller players there will be compared to kbm and which input method will win the tournament.
I encourage everyone to tune in and voice their opinions!
If crossplay wasn't available on launch neither should AA.GhostlyIguana2 wrote:I keep saying this, and I'll stand by it: AA needs to stay if we're going to get crossplay against XBox players. I agree that AA shouldn't exist in PC games as it can severely hinder competitive consistency in the game, but I feel like it's worth it ONLY IF we get crossplay against console players. This will guarantee long term longevity for the less populated PC players.
If 343 changes their mind about crossplay, then I say get rid of AA altogether.
They probably won't regardless of crossplay being a thing or not. There are plenty of controller users out there that would be at an unfair advantage on the PC. If they took it out, they'd have to probably nerf keyboard + mouse as the only alternative. Probably making mouse countrols being loose so they wouldn't be as accurate since that's the biggest unfair advantage they have over controller users.D dawgy wrote:If crossplay wasn't available on launch neither should AA.GhostlyIguana2 wrote:I keep saying this, and I'll stand by it: AA needs to stay if we're going to get crossplay against XBox players. I agree that AA shouldn't exist in PC games as it can severely hinder competitive consistency in the game, but I feel like it's worth it ONLY IF we get crossplay against console players. This will guarantee long term longevity for the less populated PC players.
If 343 changes their mind about crossplay, then I say get rid of AA altogether.
Comparing immediate dpi change to aim assist does not even make any sense lmao do you know what you are even typing?Alan J T wrote:I'm surprised this is still ongoing. So you are demanding that AA be removed from the game, yet you seem happy for Mice that can have the DPI changed on the fly to make it highly responsive to highly accurate at the touch of a button. Now why is that you are happy to have a input device that can change its accuracy and input setting on the fly but get all antsy about AA.
And then there's the other problem Everyone who Plays Halo on the Xbox Has to pay for the Privilege of playing MP via Gold Subscription You being on PC don't yet your demanding that AA be removed from the game. Perhaps if you were coughing up money every year to play a game online you could ask for some changes to make it more competitive but till you do I don't think you can demand that all players on the Xbox who pay for the Server and game maintenance Have a feature of the game removed just to make you happy. Because that is what so many of you are doing.
And if they remove AA from the PC then there goes crossplay and then there goes the game for PC, as so many of the comets in this thread demand AA be removed to make it fair and competitive then they would have to remove AA from the Xbox version of the game as well to make it fair and competitive according to so many posters.
Somehow I don't ever see this happening.
